There's No Quarterback Controversy

[prinzeofmoval]

Originally Posted by redsk1

I think the question should be is JC a playmaker or not? Or does JC need everything around him to be clicking in order to win games and play well?

I think he's shown that when the blocking and run game is working well he's a pretty decent qb.

Hell who couldn't be a decent Qb when theres blocking and good running? Its called Improvising. Take what you have and make it work. He doesn't and isn't capable of doing this. Next!

[BDBohnzie]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

Hell who couldn't be a decent Qb when theres blocking and good running? Its called Improvising. Take what you have and make it work. He doesn't and isn't capable of doing this. Next!

Then what do you call the first 8 games of this year?

Campbell is very capable, and has improvised successfully (again, I point to the first 8 games of the year). It's very hard to imagine any QB being successful with a injury-ridden offensive line that can't block a tic-tac-toe game and a run game that has been stopped by 4 of the best defenses in the league. When the protection is there, Campbell is moving the ball.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by prinzeofmoval

He doesn't and isn't capable of doing this. Next!

Wait, I thought we were talking about Jason Campbell. But this sounds like were talking about some people on this site, and the way they understand football.

[prinzeofmoval]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Wait, I thought we were talking about Jason Campbell. But this sounds like were talking about some people on this site, and the way they understand football.

lol these threads really do go nowhere huh?

[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by redsk1

I think the question should be is JC a playmaker or not? Or does JC need everything around him to be clicking in order to win games and play well?

I think he's shown that when the blocking and run game is working well he's a pretty decent qb.

after countless threads and posts about JC i think we have the question properly narrowed down (atleast in my mind): does JC need everything around him to be working for him to be successful?

most qbs can look good when the runningback runs for 130+ and the D makes the opposing offense earn their TDs.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by redsk1

I think the question should be is JC a playmaker or not? Or does JC need everything around him to be clicking in order to win games and play well?

I think he's shown that when the blocking and run game is working well he's a pretty decent qb.

It just so happens that Scouts Inc agrees with you.

Originally from ESPN Insider:

Originally Posted by Scouts Inc

Washington
• The Redskins used a variety of five- and three-step drops and play-action passes to offset the aggressive Ravens defense, but they were unable to consistently keep Campbell clean in the pocket. It seemed that when Campbell had time he was able to be effective, especially early on, but he didn't have enough support from the running game to keep the Baltimore defense off-balance.

[Twilbert07]

The Bengals D is nothing like the tough defenses we've played recently, so this will be Jason Campbell's chance to shine. It will be a big boost if he can throw a couple TD passes and lead us to more than 20 points.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by Twilbert07

The Bengals D is nothing like the tough defenses we've played recently, so this will be Jason Campbell's chance to shine. It will be a big boost if he can throw a couple TD passes and lead us to more than 20 points.

True, but if I am the Bengals D-coordinator, I'm telling my guys to bring the heat off the edges. With Heyer and Fabini in as our tackles, Jason is going to get killed.

[charlielyons]

his auburn stats:;:::Jason Campbell #17 QB

CAREER STATS
YARDS TOUCHDOWNS
7,299 45



Birth Date December 31, 1981
Birth Place Laurel, MS
Height 6-5
Weight 228 lbs.
Age 23
Class Senior

ProfileStatsGame Log

Stats Overview Passing
YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2001 0 142 1117 0.0 7.87 72 4 4 15 69.74
2002 94 149 1215 63.1 8.15 54 11 5 14 149.23
2003 181 293 2267 61.8 7.74 68 10 8 25 132.57
2004 188 270 2700 69.6 10.00 87 20 7 13 172.89




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[skins6]

Campbell Out--collins In

[SkinDogg]

Originally Posted by skins6

Campbell Out--collins In

Did you even watch the end of last season?

[prinzeofmoval]

Originally Posted by SkinDogg

Did you even watch the end of last season?

yes its called being healthy.

[44ever]

how about just trying to throw past the first down markers! why is it if we need 8 yards we pass for 3 if we need 3 yards we pass for 2 and so on. The best passer in the league will have a losing season. Frustrating!

[DieHardSkin]

Why do we keep making excuses for JC (4 different offenses, no offensive line, etc.). Face it!! He is a mediocre quarterback who has a long throwing motion, doesn't sense pressure, and doesn’t move well in the pocket like good quarterbacks....AKA Tony Romo & Big Ben for a few examples. Average quarterbacks (Mark Rypien) can look good with a running game, and good offensive line. The question is can Jason be a good QB with an average offensive line, and average running game? My answer would be NO.....

[jdlea]

I think it's funny that people will say that Jason "needs the entire offense to click to be any good." That's how 90% of the quarterbacks in the NFL work. Every one of them needs help, not necessarily from the run game, but it can also come from superior receivers.

Let's take a look at teams who don't run well:
-Arizona: Both of there starters are better than Santana Moss (head and shoulders maybe) and I'd go so far as to assert that Steve Breaston would be an upgrade over Randle El.
-Colts: No one has ever said Jason Campbell is Peyton Manning, but for the sake of argument, Wayne is better than Moss right now, Clark is more productive than Cooley, and Harrison/Gonzo are better than any 2/3 receivers the Skins have. AND, now that they're healthy they have one of the best pass protecting offensive lines in the league.
-Lions: Horrible football team.
-Bengals: Horrible football team.
-Rams: Horrible football team.

There are your bottom 5 rushing teams in the NFL. They have Qb's who I would be ecstatic if JC became, amazing receivers, great o lines, or they don't win football games. The last few games, the Skins have been a bad running team and they've seen similar results to the Lions, Bengals and Rams, a balanced offense helps win games unless you've built a passing football team. Unfortunately, the Skins never aspired to be a passing football team, so until one of the best receiving corps and a great o line walks through the door, it's a little bit tough to judge Jason Campbell.

Finally, if you think that Todd Collins would have more success in this system, with no running or pass blocking to go along with a spotty defense, you're out of your mind. No one on this team is playing well and that won't change by switching to a journeyman QB who played 4 or 5 good games.