Portis, Fletch, Moss The Rest no heart

[over the mountain]

heart, motivation, concentration, focus whatever you want to call it does have meaning in football; it was motivation that brought carlos in this offseason to actually start studying film FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HIS CAREER and the results have shown and he has attributed alot of his success to that dedication to the film study . . .it was heart (and monetary incentive) for portis to be in the redskins facilities this offseason working out and the players noticed portis working his butt off and it gave them motivation to do the same . . it is heart that djnemo is so quick to say doesnt exist then post a wilbon article talking about how portis plays with heart . . .

some people on this board are so quick to discount or laugh at anyone who thinks or wants to talk about something other than 40 times or specific plays . . . there are certain intangibles in this league that seperate a great player from a good player and great teams from good teams and lil bit of that involves the "heart" . . .but yeah anyone who thinks other than you is an idiot and clearly doesnt know football like you guys . . .give me a break

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

heart, motivation, concentration, focus whatever you want to call it does have meaning in football; it was motivation that brought carlos in this offseason to actually start studying film FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HIS CAREER and the results have shown and he has attributed alot of his success to that dedication to the film study . . .it was heart (and monetary incentive) for portis to be in the redskins facilities this offseason working out and the players noticed portis working his butt off and it gave them motivation to do the same . . it is heart that djnemo is so quick to say doesnt exist then post a wilbon article talking about how portis plays with heart . . .

some people on this board are so quick to discount or laugh at anyone who thinks or wants to talk about something other than 40 times or specific plays . . . there are certain intangibles in this league that seperate a great player from a good player and great teams from good teams and lil bit of that involves the "heart" . . .but yeah anyone who thinks other than you is an idiot and clearly doesnt know football like you guys . . .give me a break

I don't think anyone is disputing the effects of the human element on the game of football, I mean, DeAngelo Hall keeps doing dumb crap when every outside observer in the world thinks he needs to show more sense.

But it's when people come in here and say "You need to have heart and this team has none." where people start to be skeptical of said poster, and when the poster claims that he can see on television or from the stands that this team has no heart, then he's sort of thrown his credibility and maybe his sanity as well to the wind.

Intangibles are by definition not tangible. You can't see them. We can speculate all day about their effect on the game, but you can't use them in an argument and cite observation as your source. Then, satire starts.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I don't think anyone is disputing the effects of the human element on the game of football, I mean, DeAngelo Hall keeps doing dumb crap when every outside observer in the world thinks he needs to show more sense.

But it's when people come in here and say "You need to have heart and this team has none." where people start to be skeptical of said poster, and when the poster claims that he can see on television or from the stands that this team has no heart, then he's sort of thrown his credibility and maybe his sanity as well to the wind.

Intangibles are by definition not tangible. You can't see them. We can speculate all day about their effect on the game, but you can't use them in an argument and cite observation as your source. Then, satire starts.

cheers to that

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

heart, motivation, concentration, focus whatever you want to call it does have meaning in football; it was motivation that brought carlos in this offseason to actually start studying film FOR THE FIRST TIME IN HIS CAREER and the results have shown and he has attributed alot of his success to that dedication to the film study . . .it was heart (and monetary incentive) for portis to be in the redskins facilities this offseason working out and the players noticed portis working his butt off and it gave them motivation to do the same . . it is heart that djnemo is so quick to say doesnt exist then post a wilbon article talking about how portis plays with heart . . .

some people on this board are so quick to discount or laugh at anyone who thinks or wants to talk about something other than 40 times or specific plays . . . there are certain intangibles in this league that seperate a great player from a good player and great teams from good teams and lil bit of that involves the "heart" . . .but yeah anyone who thinks other than you is an idiot and clearly doesnt know football like you guys . . .give me a break

I agree with everything you said Mountain. I just don't think it applies to this team. I saw guys playing their ass off and don't believe for one minute we lost the game because of a lack of heart. But I do agree with you. I think Fletch for one plays with a lot of heart. I have seen teams pretty much give up and you can SEE they're not playing with heart. But I don't see that in OUR team and I think that's what's offensive about this thread.