Redskins vs. Ravens pre-game thread

[maroonandblack30]

Skins have WAY more quality wins than the Ravens. 4-0 against Bengals and browns...thats half their wins against 2 teams with a combined record of 5-18-1!!! A bit over-hyped IMO.

[irish]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

Skins have WAY more quality wins than the Ravens. 4-0 against Bengals and browns...thats half their wins against 2 teams with a combined record of 5-18-1!!! A bit over-hyped IMO.

WAY more quality wins? 3 of the Skins 7 wins (Clev, Det, Seat) come against teams with a record of 6-30. Lets not mention the loss to the 2-10 Rams. I guess I'm wondering what quality teams you think the Skins have beaten. The only one I see is Dallas.

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by irish

WAY more quality wins? 3 of the Skins 7 wins (Clev, Det, Seat) come against teams with a record of 6-30. Lets not mention the loss to the 2-10 Rams. I guess I'm wondering what quality teams you think the Skins have beaten. The only one I see is Dallas.

First 4 wins of the season were against teams with AT LEAST .500 records.... thats 4 more than the Ravens.... I guess it boils down to what you consider quality.

Not saying the Skins are great just that they have actually beaten decent teams. Can't say the same for the Ravens.

[irish]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

First 4 wins of the season were against teams with AT LEAST .500 records.... thats 4 more than the Ravens.... I guess it boils down to what you consider quality.

Not saying the Skins are great just that they have actually beaten decent teams. Can't say the same for the Ravens.

The only decent teams the Ravens have beat is Phil & Miami. Thats nothing to get excited about. The Skins have beaten more decent teams than Balt.

[JoeRedskin]

Originally Posted by irish

WAY more quality wins? 3 of the Skins 7 wins (Clev, Det, Seat) come against teams with a record of 6-30. Lets not mention the loss to the 2-10 Rams. I guess I'm wondering what quality teams you think the Skins have beaten. The only one I see is Dallas.

Well, now you're just being obtuse.

Philly has its probs but beating Philly in Philly is a quality win. Particularly when it comes right after a road win in Dallas. New Orleans was a quality win (certainly as equal in quality as Miami for the Ravens, see below). Arizona was a quality win.

Baltimore beat Philly and Miami. Other than that it was Cinci (2), Cleveland (2), Houston and Oakland - No Arizona or Dallas equivalents.

Baltimore has lost to NY Giants, Tennessee, Indianapolis and Pittsburg. So no, they don't have a St. Louis Rams type loss on their schedule. Other than St. Louis, however, our losses are Dallas, Pitt, and the NYG's (2).

All in all, w/o breaking it down further, we have beaten slightly better teams then they have beaten and, other than St. Louis, lost to teams of similar caliber.

Not sure the two teams are, as CRedskins said, the top two non-elite teams of the league - 'cause I'm not sure how limited "elite" is. I think both teams are clearly second tier teams in the same class as Dallas, Atlanta & Patriots and slighty ahead of teams like Arizona, Miami, Denver & Minnesota (the other 7-5 teams). Certainly we have the capability to beat any of those teams, but only if the offense recaptures its early season success.

Which leads me to my prediction: two tough defenses - but their offense has been making strides while ours has stalled:

Baltimore 21
Skins 10

You don't know how much it hurts to say that. My Baltimore coworkers will NEVER let me hear the end of it.

[MTK]

Just a gut feeling, some how, some way, the Skins pull out the W.

17-13

[RiggoDrill]

WAY more quality wins? 3 of the Skins 7 wins (Clev, Det, Seat) come against teams with a record of 6-30. Lets not mention the loss to the 2-10 Rams. I guess I'm wondering what quality teams you think the Skins have beaten. The only one I see is Dallas.

Irish, don't let facts get in the way here. This is a weekly thread where people put on their rose colored glasses, sip some kool-aid, and predict a Redskins victory, usually with some outrageously high score in the 30+ points range.

While I would love to see a victory, the skins on the road in Balmer against a very tough D, I predict loss #6 17-7.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by RiggoDrill

Irish, don't let facts get in the way here. This is a weekly thread where people put on their rose colored glasses, sip some kool-aid, and predict a Redskins victory, usually with some outrageously high score in the 30+ points range.

While I would love to see a victory, the skins on the road in Balmer against a very tough D, I predict loss #6 17-7.

You do realize you're on site for Redskins fans, right? Of course people want and hope that the Redskins do well. That hope usually affects predictions. I look at the Skins the same way I will look at my kids. I see their potential and hope and expect that they will realize it. But, I suppose that is somehow inferior to the "My kid is a total idiot and he's going to fail" mentality that you, Irish, and others seem to have adopted. If you think that mentality is somehow superior to the B&G colored glasses crowd, think again. While many fans are overly optimistic, the contrarians among us are overly pessimistic. Only recognizing the bad doesn't make you more objective, it just makes you ....

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Sheriff Gonna Getcha

You do realize you're on site for Redskins fans, right? Of course people want and hope that the Redskins do well. That hope usually affects predictions. I look at the Skins the same way I will look at my kids. I see their potential and hope and expect that they will realize it. But, I suppose that is somehow inferior to the "My kid is a total idiot and he's going to fail" mentality that you, Irish, and others seem to have adopted. If you think that mentality is somehow superior to the B&G colored glasses crowd, think again. While many fans are overly optimistic, the contrarians among us are overly pessimistic. Only recognizing the bad doesn't make you more objective, it just makes you ....

Summo, can we get a Debbie Downer avatar, maybe spice it up in burgundy and gold?

[irish]

Originally Posted by RiggoDrill

Irish, don't let facts get in the way here. This is a weekly thread where people put on their rose colored glasses, sip some kool-aid, and predict a Redskins victory, usually with some outrageously high score in the 30+ points range.

While I would love to see a victory, the skins on the road in Balmer against a very tough D, I predict loss #6 17-7.

Thanks for the reality check. Its too bad that today's notion of being a fan is somebody that has to ignore the facts and say rah-rah no matter what.

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by irish

Thanks for the reality check. Its too bad that today's notion of being a fan is somebody that has to ignore the facts and say rah-rah no matter what.

What facts are being ignored?

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by RiggoDrill

Irish, don't let facts get in the way here. This is a weekly thread where people put on their rose colored glasses, sip some kool-aid, and predict a Redskins victory, usually with some outrageously high score in the 30+ points range.

While I would love to see a victory, the skins on the road in Balmer against a very tough D, I predict loss #6 17-7.

read my post.... I said the Skins and Ravens are EVENLY matched. I'm just somewhat baffled by all the "fans" that want to swing from B-mores nuts.

[GMScud]

For some reason (what that reason is, I don't know), I believe we start to turn things around this weekend.

I don't think a rookie QB is good enough to pick apart our secondary (first rookie signal caller we've faced all year), and their running game doesn't scare me one bit. I think our defense will have an outstanding performance.

Offensively, I think Zorn needs to pace his playcalling differently. Trying to slow things down and grind the running game plays right into Baltimore's strengths and will find us facing tons of 3-and-outs. Find creative ways to get the ball in the hands of our playmakers (a la the Devin Thomas reverse against the Giants). Most of all, I'd really like to see a little shotgun this week. Let it all hang out, Coach Z.

Redskins- 17
Ravens- 13

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by RiggoDrill

Irish, don't let facts get in the way here. This is a weekly thread where people put on their rose colored glasses, sip some kool-aid, and predict a Redskins victory, usually with some outrageously high score in the 30+ points range.

While I would love to see a victory, the skins on the road in Balmer against a very tough D, I predict loss #6 17-7.

It has nothing to do with rose colored glass and more that some people believe that we can win every game we play if we play good ball. Thats not saying we feel we should go 16/0 but we believe we can win each game. Its not like the Skins have not played any good football this year. Its not like we don't have a D that can keep us in the game. I don't get a person coming here and posting week in and week out only to predick us to loose. How boring. I don't even see why people would spend their time posting if thats how they feel about their team. I hold hope every game that we will or can win the game so thats why I never pick against my team.

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

This is going to be one boring game. Frankly, I'm just praying that we get out of M&T without any new injuries. The defense does their part, but the offense falters as the Ravens demolish the Redskins Oline.

Ravens 17, Redskins 10

PS - Portis gets hit in the backfield repeatedly and Jason gets sacked at least 4 times within 2 seconds of snapping the ball, yet the same ole' unfair attacks will be launched against Portis and Jason.