Samuels Done for the Year

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Buster

So what happened to Geisinger? I'd guess it was a pulled groin that happened when he was chasing the defenders he let go right past him.

Knee

[JWsleep]

Another silver lining (grasping at straws here, fellas!): This will disavow anyone in the FO that we are close to being a serious contender. Build with young talent from the lines out. Be prepared for it to take some time. Stick with Zorn and see what he can do. Give JC another season but be ready with a backup plan. Learn who is worth keeping in these last few games. And stay "medium": 8-8/9-7 is a successful year, IMO.

[sportscurmudgeon]

I'm hoping that Reinhart makes it into some games for more than a couple of plays between now and the end of the season for a fairly simple reason.

The Skins took 4 guys on the first day of the 2008 draft:

Kelly and Thomas at WR

Davis at TE

Reinhart at OT/OG. :confused:


So far, Kelly, Thomas and Davis have contributed next to nothing to the team in 2008. They have loads of "potential" - - which is the polite way of saying they haven't done jack-sh*t yet. So, it will be interesting to see if Reinhart can play NFL football.


It is NOT a good team-building stategy to use all of your first-day draft picks on "projects". Some of those players need to be able to contribute something to the team in their rookie year beyond punt coverage and being the desingated pass-dropper when the ball hits you in the hands.


And so far, Reinhart is the only hope for making a positive contribution...

[T.O.Killa]

To bad Cincy signed Crummey.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

To bad Cincy signed Crummey.

Is he on their practice squad or on the team? We have 2 spots to fill on our PS.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

To bad Cincy signed Crummey.

I agee with that.

[T.O.Killa]

Did anyone know that Miami's right guard is Ikechuku Ndukwe. He was on our team, originaly and went to the Ravens and they released him. Now he is starting for Miami.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Did anyone know that Miami's right guard is Ikechuku Ndukwe. He was on our team, originaly and went to the Ravens and they released him. Now he is starting for Miami.

I don't know if you spelled that right, but good for you if you did.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I don't know if you spelled that right, but good for you if you did.

I found out that he was playing when I looked at the Dolphins roster to see how many of those picks were starting and found half were. Pretty plain to see Parcels theory on how to build a team. Thanks for bring it to light GMScud.

[MTK]

Way too early to consider Rinehart a bust. He was a project coming out of college so it should be no big surprise that he's been riding the bench. Maybe in these last 3 games he'll get a look. Next year is when we'll really know what we have in him.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Way too early to consider Rinehart a bust. He was a project coming out of college so it should be no big surprise that he's been riding the bench. Maybe in these last 3 games he'll get a look. Next year is when we'll really know what we have in him.

The fact that he's been inactive to this point doesn't mean anything. Of course if you have to pick a guy to finish a game, you'd rather have the veteran Fabini active.

It was weird that Fabini hadn't been active since the Dallas game though. It didn't seem likely that it would come back to bite us, but oh well.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

The fact that he's been inactive to this point doesn't mean anything. Of course if you have to pick a guy to finish a game, you'd rather have the veteran Fabini active.

It was weird that Fabini hadn't been active since the Dallas game though. It didn't seem likely that it would come back to bite us, but oh well.

It took Fabini most of last season to get up to game speed IMHO, and even then we was not solid. What's he going to do w/ 3 games...

I don't want to sound like a broken record but again when the line situation has been deteriorating for a few years w/ aging starters and lousy back-ups, the idea of taking a lineman in the 3rd round who is nowhere near ready to take the field seems absurd. Maybe we'll all have to agree to disagree but my take is the FO thought Rhinehart would be able to make an impact if/when he was needed (obviously nobody expected him to start). Instead he had a very poor preseason and has not gained anyone's confidence. I'm chalking it up to a scouting error because I think (and really hope from a common sense perspective) that they intended to take a guy who could be of real help. Not a guy who wears jeans all sunday like me

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by The Goat

It took Fabini most of last season to get up to game speed IMHO, and even then we was not solid. What's he going to do w/ 3 games...

I don't want to sound like a broken record but again when the line situation has been deteriorating for a few years w/ aging starters and lousy back-ups, the idea of taking a lineman in the 3rd round who is nowhere near ready to take the field seems absurd. Maybe we'll all have to agree to disagree but my take is the FO thought Rhinehart would be able to make an impact if/when he was needed (obviously nobody expected him to start). Instead he had a very poor preseason and has not gained anyone's confidence. I'm chalking it up to a scouting error because I think (and really hope from a common sense perspective) that they intended to take a guy who could be of real help. Not a guy who wears jeans all sunday like me

Fabini was pretty darn good last year, albeit at Guard. I mean, we haven't really seen improvement at the position since Thomas has been healthy. I'm not sure if he can still handle OT, but he was a starter in Dallas but three years ago at RT.

I'm confident that Rinehart could play right now at RG if we needed him to, but I actually feel that we want more from him for this.

[bedlamVR]

I have mixed feelings on this .

Samuels no matter what the dunderheads on this board say is a top LT . But he has been slowed by that knee injury and simply not himself .. Normally he would be one of the OL men you would see everywhere but more often than not in the last couple of weeks he has been stood around in pain hands on hips .

It does essentially end our season . It ends the running game of Portis but I know I want the team to fight for every yard .

As for the Parcells comparison . Bill always builds the lines, but if you actually watched the Dolphins last year they were not as bad as they looked . I saw them play the Giants close, the Steelers to 3 point and actually beat the Ravens.

The Dolphins have been rebuilding their line for a number of years, adding Jake long often makes the OL better just like adding Samuels in 2000 made our offensive line good .

[CRedskinsRule]

Also;
ours:
2nd round: Thomas- WR 13 games 14 catches, 103 yds (+ 1 TD called back ) 2 Rushes 45 yds, 1 TD
2nd round: Davis - TE 7 games 1 catch 6 yards (inactive after Detroit game did something happen in that one?)
2nd round: Kelly - WR 5 games 3 catches 18yds
7th round: Horton - SS 12 games 65 tackles, 3 INT

I know there are others. didn't get all the stats...