Samuels Done for the Year

[GMScud]

Some more news on the injury front-

I've mentioned before I have a friend who is a part time trainer for the Redskins. He's at Redskins Park every Monday helping in the weight room / training room. He told me Horton looked like he was in a lot of pain with his shoulder injury, and that Geisenger is done for the year with a torn meniscus. Shit.

[Beemnseven]

Hopefully this is what will make Vinny Cerrato wake the hell up on draft day when it comes to the offensive line.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Hopefully this is what will make Vinny Cerrato wake the hell up on draft day when it comes to the offensive line.

I saw this posted in a comment on Redskins Insider today.

Miami's 2008 Draft (Parcells knows how to shop for groceries):

1st round: Jake Long - OT
2nd round: Merling - DE
3rd round: Langford - DT
4th round: Murphy - OT
6th round: Thomas - OG
7th round: Dotson - DE

After a 1-15 season last year, guess who the most improved team is this season? Granted Pennington is a big part of that, but The Tuna understands what butters the bread of successful NFL teams. The trenches baby.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I saw this posted in a comment on Redskins Insider today.

Miami's 2008 Draft (Parcells knows how to shop for groceries):

1st round: Jake Long - OT
2nd round: Merling - DE
3rd round: Langford - DT
4th round: Murphy - OT
6th round: Thomas - OG
7th round: Dotson - DE

After a 1-15 season last year, guess who the most improved team is this season? Granted Pennington is a big part of that, but The Tuna understands what butters the bread of successful NFL teams. The trenches baby.

Merling is definitely someone I would have liked here. But, just out of curiosity, how much are those guys contributing this season?

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Merling is definitely someone I would have liked here. But, just out of curiosity, how much are those guys contributing this season?

Without looking deeply into the playing time of any of these guys, I'd bet that after the 3rd round, none of those players are making that much of an impact. I could be wrong of course, that's straight speculation.

But still, you see the pattern. And no one can deny that Bill Parcells is a master at lifting teams out of the depths.

It's one of the rules known throughout football: You have to build up your lines first.

Vinny Cerrato, with Dan Snyder's approval has steadily ignored this rule. And we're seeing the results.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

Without looking deeply into the playing time of any of these guys, I'd bet that after the 3rd round, none of those players are making that much of an impact. I could be wrong of course, that's straight speculation.

But still, you see the pattern. And no one can deny that Bill Parcells is a master at lifting teams out of the depths.

It's one of the rules known throughout football: You have to build up your lines first.

Vinny Cerrato, with Dan Snyder's approval has steadily ignored this rule. And we're seeing the results.

I just bring it up because A)it's likely that most of those guys have little to do nothing do with the Dolphins' improvement this season and b)why are we praising guys on other teams who have yet to contribute anything (in all likelihood, I don't know for a fact) yet are so quick to dismiss our own draft picks?

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I just bring it up because A)it's likely that most of those guys have little to do nothing do with the Dolphins' improvement this season and b)why are we praising guys on other teams who have yet to contribute anything (in all likelihood, I don't know for a fact) yet are so quick to dismiss our own draft picks?

Then it looks like we're arguing about two different things. My point, and I think GMScud's also, is to contrast the drafting strategy of the Redskins under Snyder and Cerrato and Bill Parcells who knows how to build a team up from the ashes.

I'm not ready to dismiss Thomas, Kelly and Davis as busts yet either. And in fact, I was willing to give Cerrato the benefit of the doubt on drafting them because receiver was obvioulsy an area of need. But to ignore the offensive and defensive lines year after year is inexcusable. They haven't spent a high draft choice (3rd or higher) on a D-linemen since Kenard Lang in 1997. And there's been just two high draft picks (Rinehart and Dockery) chosen along the O-line in eight years.

That sort of mindset defies the formula that elite teams use to build themselves up and prepare for the future. And this front office has done it for almost a decade now.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I saw this posted in a comment on Redskins Insider today.

Miami's 2008 Draft (Parcells knows how to shop for groceries):

1st round: Jake Long - OT
2nd round: Merling - DE
3rd round: Langford - DT
4th round: Murphy - OT
6th round: Thomas - OG
7th round: Dotson - DE

After a 1-15 season last year, guess who the most improved team is this season? Granted Pennington is a big part of that, but The Tuna understands what butters the bread of successful NFL teams. The trenches baby.

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Merling is definitely someone I would have liked here. But, just out of curiosity, how much are those guys contributing this season?

Just an fyi:


1st round: Jake Long - OT played in all 13 games
2nd round: Merling - DE played in all 13 games 17 tackles
3rd round: Langford - DT played in all 13 games 26 tackles
4th round: Murphy - OT played in 0 games
6th round: Thomas - OG played in 0 games
7th round: Dotson - DE played in 2 games 1 tackle.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Just an fyi:


1st round: Jake Long - OT played in all 13 games
2nd round: Merling - DE played in all 13 games 17 tackles
3rd round: Langford - DT played in all 13 games 26 tackles
4th round: Murphy - OT played in 0 games
6th round: Thomas - OG played in 0 games
7th round: Dotson - DE played in 2 games 1 tackle.

Pretty good. All 6 lineman they drafted made the team, with half of them playing in every game. Not to mention they got their future QB in Chad Henne and good complimentary WR in Davone Bess who has contributed 39 catches (more than our top 3 picks combined) and 744 all-purpose yards (WAY more than our top 3 picks combined).