D.C. Examiner: Zorn's job in jeopardy? (not so fast he's coming back)

[GMScud]

We should put a "?" after jeopardy in the thread title. It's a bit misleading. The article suggests that Snyder is frustrated with the team (i.e. the "honeymoon is over" comment), but offers nothing to back up the notion that Zorn's job is in jeopardy.

It's totally speculative, not definitive as the thread title suggests. I just don't want to see a bunch of freak out type posts.

The title of the article, after all, is "Zorn's job in jeopardy?"

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

We should put a "?" after jeopardy in the thread title. It's a bit misleading. The article suggests that Snyder is frustrated with the team (i.e. the "honeymoon is over" comment), but offers nothing to back up the notion that Zorn's job is in jeopardy.

It's totally speculative, not definitive as the thread title suggests. I just don't want to see a bunch of freak out type posts.

The title of the article, after all, is "Zorn's job in jeopardy?"

Good call, change has been made

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by GMScud

We should put a "?" after jeopardy in the thread title. It's a bit misleading. The article suggests that Snyder is frustrated with the team (i.e. the "honeymoon is over" comment), but offers nothing to back up the notion that Zorn's job is in jeopardy.

It's totally speculative, not definitive as the thread title suggests. I just don't want to see a bunch of freak out type posts.

The title of the article, after all, is "Zorn's job in jeopardy?"

No doubt stirring things up a little. We're frustrated. DS's frustrated. JZ is frustrated. The players are frustrated.

Unfortunately when the Danny is frustrated sometimes heads roll. See Norv Turner.

[Beemnseven]

Hey just for the record, the word "jeopardy" itself implies a question -- not a certainty -- that Zorn may lose his job if they don't finish 9-7.

Also for the record, I just don't think this story is as ridiculous as we all hope it is.

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I gotta believe this is a bunch of malarky...

Let's hope it is.

But think about it for a minute -- is it absolutely out of the question that Snyder was only going to give Zorn one full season to judge how he handled a veteran, playoff team to see if he could lead them to the next level? And if he failed, or didn't maintain a .500 or better record that he would turn to someone else?

[RMSkins]

If we lose out I think Zorn deserves to be fired.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

If we lose out I think Zorn deserves to be fired.

Actually I'd agree. Losing to the Bengals and Niners would seal it for me.

If I'm the owner, and while I was interviewing you, if you said to me that you'd take a 9-7 team from the previous season and go 7-9 this year, I would not have hired you.

But Zorn's not that guy, I don't think. I think we'll beat those two teams and go 9-7. He'll deserve another shot next year. But again, playing owner, I'd fully expect his passing game to make major improvement in 2009.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Actually I'd agree. Losing to the Bengals and Niners would seal it for me.

If I'm the owner, and while I was interviewing you, if you said to me that you'd take a 9-7 team from the previous season and go 7-9 this year, I would not have hired you.

But Zorn's not that guy, I don't think. I think we'll beat those two teams and go 9-7. He'll deserve another shot next year. But again, playing owner, I'd fully expect his passing game to make major improvement in 2009.

C'mon. Firing a rookie head coach in his first year when he's trying to implement his new offense is just stupid. Really stupid. I have some issues with Zorn but he needs time. Even if we lost to SF and Cinn. And losing to SF is a real possibility. They're playing better than we are. We simply don't have players and that's not Zorn's fault. Maybe Snyder needs to look at his butt buddy Vinny. But I doubt this story is true.

[RMSkins]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

C'mon. Firing a rookie head coach in his first year when he's trying to implement his new offense is just stupid. Really stupid. I have some issues with Zorn but he needs time. Even if we lost to SF and Cinn. And losing to SF is a real possibility. They're playing better than we are. We simply don't have players and that's not Zorn's fault. Maybe Snyder needs to look at his butt buddy Vinny. But I doubt this story is true.

I totally disagree. If we lose our next three games, after starting the season 6-2, and finish the season 7-9 I think absolutely merits a firing. This was a playoff team last year with virtually the same players. We have the talent on this team i'm just not exactly sure if it's being used properly.

[SFREDSKIN]

If this story is true and Danny is really thinking of doing that? Then he should sell the team to a competent owner who uses his brain instead of his emotions. This team will never win if this is a real rumor, hopefully that's all it is. A rumor.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

I totally disagree. If we lose our next three games, after starting the season 6-2, and finish the season 7-9 I think absolutely merits a firing. This was a playoff team last year with virtually the same players. We have the talent on this team i'm just not exactly sure if it's being used properly.

I don't know if I'd call this a playoff team last year rather a team that happened to make the playoffs.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

I totally disagree. If we lose our next three games, after starting the season 6-2, and finish the season 7-9 I think absolutely merits a firing. This was a playoff team last year with virtually the same players. We have the talent on this team i'm just not exactly sure if it's being used properly.

A playoff team and a 6th seed that barely got in and went home after one game. We could have VERY easily been 7-9 or worse last year. Rackers kick goes in and we're done. Dallas didn't need the last game of the year so they laid down for us. Yes we can bitch about certain guys not being used correctly but firing Zorn is not the way to go. Talent wise there is really no difference between the 07 and 08 team. If anything we're worse. Did anyone think we'd be better w/out Sean Taylor? Give Zorn 3 years. I can't believe we're even talking about this.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

I totally disagree. If we lose our next three games, after starting the season 6-2, and finish the season 7-9 I think absolutely merits a firing. This was a playoff team last year with virtually the same players. We have the talent on this team i'm just not exactly sure if it's being used properly.

Play off team yes, but even Gibbs had a bad year in between his two playoff runs. This was a tall order to ask of any new head coach. Then throw in the fact that he has never been an NFL coordinator let alone a coach. Then hand him the team and say see what you can do a long with a new scheme (WCO). Plus it wasn't like he was hired in Jan or Feb. it was like what March or April right before the draft. He had to review film to see what he had then decide what he needed in the draft to only get to pick best player available instead by positional need. Then come up with a playbook, training schedule, preseason schedule, teach a QB how to be a QB, teach a whole team his WCO scoring machine we were promised, and play call for games. Even Gibbs looked bad his first year. Lost what the first 5 games ended up 8-8. Then progressivly got better.

I say we need to give Zorn time. He needs to get "his" type of players he needs to run his offense. The best part about Gibbs was he came here and realized that the players didn't fit his system so he changed his system halfway through the year which many people accredited him for developing. There was the WCO and Gibbs offense. The trees split off from there. Now the problem I see with Zorn is he has not adapted to his players. He wants them to adapt to his system and we don't have the right players in the system. WCO needs tall WR's we don't have them developed to run this system. It needs more of a run blocking TE and Cooley is more of a passing TE due to size. I've heard mention that the whole O-line is not typical of a WCO. He should get one more year to try to empliment his offense but I will add that I don't know if he will get it. If Snyder learns that Cowher is wanting back in coaching and still has a hard on for the man then Zorn is gone.

[Defensewins]

Brilliant!
This Front Office never ceases to amaze me. One step forward, two steps back.
Do they have mirrors in the owner and GM's bathrooms? They never accept any of the blame. It is always someone else's fault. The only constant besides the losing is Snyderatto. It is time for Vinny to be judged.
This is not a coaching problem, it is a personnel problem. We have the oldest team in the NFL. I wonder why our offensive and defensive lines get run over?

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Brilliant!
This Front Office never ceases to amaze me. One step forward, two steps back.
Do they have mirrors in the owner and GM's bathrooms? They never accept any of the blame. It is always someone else's fault. The only constant besides the losing is Snyderatto. It is time for Vinny to be judged.
This is not a coaching problem, it is a personnel problem. We have the oldest team in the NFL. I wonder why our offensive and defensive lines get run over?

From your post it sounds like you have inside information that this is actually true and that it could be some dumb rumor someone started.