Hoping for more Intermediate passing vs the Bengals?

[over the mountain]

" (2) IMO the current offensive line of: Heyer@ LT, Fabini@ RT, will provide better pass-pro then an injured Samuels, (struggling/injured) Jansen."

i hope your right about getting some good pass pro this game, but i think if it happens its more about the bengals lack of pass rush then expecting 2 young non-starting tackles to play lights out. im excited to see what we do sunday.

on the 3 step drop thing i havent seen alot of that. maybe b/c JC doesnt get rid of the ball quick enough so it looks like he takes 3 steps, holds onto the ball, has to try and avoid pressure, takes some more steps, etc = just hard to tell if it was a 3 step drop b/c the ball doesnt come out after 3 steps.

id be interested to really see how many 3 step drop plays we call, then see why the balls not coming out right away? recievers, JC, pass pro? i thought this quick spread WCO passing scheme protects a weak o line b/c the ball is supposed be gone by the time the rushers can get to the qb.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

i hope your right about getting some good pass pro this game, but i think if it happens its more about the bengals lack of pass rush then expecting 2 young non-starting tackles to play lights out. im excited to see what we do sunday.

I'm not expecting them to play lights out, but they're both healthy and that alone is an improvement over Samuels and Jansen. Heyer is young but he was the starter @ RT before his injury and Fabini is a veteran with lots of starting experience.

He [Fabini] joined the Redskins in 2007 and played in 16 regular-season games with 13 starts at right guard
Fabini has appeared in 145 career games with 127 starts, mostly lining up at left tackle in his 10 NFL seasons.

Jason Fabini

on the 3 step drop thing i havent seen alot of that. maybe b/c JC doesnt get rid of the ball quick enough so it looks like he takes 3 steps, holds onto the ball, has to try and avoid pressure, takes some more steps, etc = just hard to tell if it was a 3 step drop b/c the ball doesnt come out after 3 steps.

Maybe that's what you see. But, i've seen alot of 3 step drop passing.
Sometimes the receivers aren't open because some teams are playing underneath coverage in effort to take the short passes away and JC has to hold the ball, then the pressure comes.

id be interested to really see how many 3 step drop plays we call,

Hopefully this game won't provide a good example of the 3-step drop focus, because we'll try get the intermediate passing game going. But, i'd bet that we'll start off with the 3-step stuff and if you look at the previous games JC thows alot of hitches, slants an quick in-breaking routes from rhythm in a 3 step drop.

i thought this quick spread WCO passing scheme protects a weak o line b/c the ball is supposed be gone by the time the rushers can get to the qb

The 3 step drop (quick passing scheme) does protect a weak offense line that's why we do it soo much. And i wouldn't exactly call our offense a spread WCO because we rarely go 4-5 wide. Although i think we should, i would love to see more 4-5 wide and put JC in shotgun.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I'm not expecting them to play lights out, but they're both healthy and that alone is an improvement over Samuels and Jansen. Heyer is young but he was the starter @ RT before his injury and Fabini is a veteran with lots of starting experience.

He [Fabini] joined the Redskins in 2007 and played in 16 regular-season games with 13 starts at right guard
Fabini has appeared in 145 career games with 127 starts, mostly lining up at left tackle in his 10 NFL seasons.

Jason Fabini



Maybe that's what you see. But, i've seen alot of 3 step drop passing.
Sometimes the receivers aren't open because some teams are playing underneath coverage in effort to take the short passes away and JC has to hold the ball, then the pressure comes.




Hopefully this game won't provide a good example of the 3-step drop focus, because we'll try get the intermediate passing game going. But, i'd bet that we'll start off with the 3-step stuff and if you look at the previous games JC thows alot of hitches, slants an quick in-breaking routes from rhythm in a 3 step drop.



The 3 step drop (quick passing scheme) does protect a weak offense line that's why we do it soo much. And i wouldn't exactly call our offense a spread WCO because we rarely go 4-5 wide. Although i think we should, i would love to see more 4-5 wide and put JC in shotgun.

I like that idea(5 wide), but we don't have the horses yet to effectively go 5 wide. The rooks need to step up there game for us to do that or JC might end up getting killed. Hell, has Kelly even played in a game yet?

[30gut]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

I like that idea(5 wide), but we don't have the horses yet to effectively go 5 wide. The rooks need to step up there game for us to do that or JC might end up getting killed. Hell, has Kelly even played in a game yet?

Idk bro, we've gone 4/5 wide with success with: Moss, ARE, DT11, Cooley and Thrash/Kelly/Portis/Betts

but IMO Zorn doesn' do it often

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Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm hoping for some solid pass protection and the rest will take care of itself.

I think JC and the passing game are gonna really get it going. (but i always feel that way)

HTTR!