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Old 12-14-2008, 07:36 PM   #1
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After that effort today the answer might be becoming quite clear.
There's no quit in a team that gets down 17-0 and then comes back to basically tie the game.

It's unfortunate that the call got overturned and later we fumbled, because we had basically done all the work it takes to get back in the game. But even the fumble was a bad call because Sellers was clearly stopped for two or three seconds before they blew the whistle and ruled touchback. Great job, morons. Way to play it off like you didn't screw up either.

Remember, our offense only got into trouble when we tried to rely on the running game. Our passing game had it's way with them. They had no pressure on Campbell, and he picked the intermediate zones apart.
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Old 12-14-2008, 07:54 PM   #2
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There's no quit in a team that gets down 17-0 and then comes back to basically tie the game.
I'd say a team has quit when it gets down 17-0 to the Bengals in the first place.
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Old 12-14-2008, 07:57 PM   #3
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I'd say a team has quit when it gets down 17-0 to the Bengals in the first place.
If it quit it wouldn't have scored 13 points. Bottom line, Sellers screwed up with that fumble.
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I'd say a team has quit when it gets down 17-0 to the Bengals in the first place.
Wait, so we quit, but then decided not to quit?

Can we stop throwing the term "Quit" around when that's clearly not the problem?
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Wait, so we quit, but then decided not to quit?

Can we stop throwing the term "Quit" around when that's clearly not the problem?

"Clearly" not the problem? I don't see how anyone can say that.

If scoring 13 points against one of the worst teams in the league is all it takes to prove to you that they truly are Spartans, then have at it.

They stunk up the joint with the playoffs on the line against the Cincinnati Bengals. So yes, in my book this team has quit.
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"Clearly" not the problem? I don't see how anyone can say that.

If scoring 13 points against one of the worst teams in the league is all it takes to prove to you that they truly are Spartans, then have at it.

They stunk up the joint with the playoffs on the line against the Cincinnati Bengals. So yes, in my book this team has quit.
Your evidence that they've quit though is bordering on conspiracy theory, and at best, is weak.

Performance in a single game is not evidence for much, especially an outlandish accusation.

When the Bucs were down 14-0 to the Lions just two weeks ago, I guess the only logical conclusion, according to you, is that they quit on Jon Gruden. Nevermind the rest of the game. The start of the game on the road apparently is evidence enough for you to draw a conclusion (that isn't necessarily supported by the evidence anyway).
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Your evidence that they've quit though is bordering on conspiracy theory, and at best, is weak.

Performance in a single game is not evidence for much, especially an outlandish accusation.
They evidence is clear. And this isn't just one game we're talking about. Today, they couldn't find it within themselves to rise to the occasion against one of the worst teams in football to stay in the playoff hunt.

I don't see what is so "outlandish" about it.

You can parse words and call it whatever you want. Either way the results speak for themselves.
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They evidence is clear. And this isn't just one game we're talking about. Today, they couldn't find it within themselves to rise to the occasion against one of the worst teams in football to stay in the playoff hunt.

I don't see what is so "outlandish" about it.

You can parse words and call it whatever you want. Either way the results speak for themselves.
We scored 10 pts against one of if not the worst defenses in the NFL. That's a fact.
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They evidence is clear. And this isn't just one game we're talking about. Today, they couldn't find it within themselves to rise to the occasion against one of the worst teams in football to stay in the playoff hunt.

I don't see what is so "outlandish" about it.

You can parse words and call it whatever you want. Either way the results speak for themselves.
Yeah, Cooley that quitter. Doesn't give enough effort to not turn the ball over after he converts on third and long.
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I'd say a team has quit when it gets down 17-0 to the Bengals in the first place.
The team has not quit!!! We have too many high character guys on this team to say stupid crap like that.
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The team has not quit!!! We have too many high character guys on this team to say stupid crap like that.
So we have lots of "high character guys" who just plain suck?

They mailed it in today. I don't see why people find that statement so appalling.
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So we have lots of "high character guys" who just plain suck?

They mailed it in today. I don't see why people find that statement so appalling.
Because it's false.

Outside of that, you might be onto something.
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Because it's false.

Outside of that, you might be onto something.
Dude, get real. The Skins were completely flat in the first quarter. They started fighting in the second quarter. But you could tell after Cooley fumbled the defense was not emotionally up, and they came out and got ran up on by Cedric Benson.
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Dude, get real. The Skins were completely flat in the first quarter. They started fighting in the second quarter. But you could tell after Cooley fumbled the defense was not emotionally up, and they came out and got ran up on by Cedric Benson.
Did you even know that the Lions were up two TDs on the Bucs this year in the first quarter?

Here's the point: you can't assume that the team coming out flat is because of any coaching issue. Sometimes, the opponent just capitalizes on the sudden change opportunity. The sample size isn't big enough to claim a conclusive evidence.

I'm glad Cedric Benson almost got 3.5 yards per carry against us and thusly we can assume that someone wasn't trying.
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Because it's false.

Outside of that, you might be onto something.
Yep, falling to the Bengals with a playoff berth hanging in the balance was actually a Herculean effort.
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