blow it up

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS

Amen......All these fools who think Zorn and Campbell are the answer are ****ed up in the head. Bill Cowher should be the coach next year. Why waste any more time with these medicore players and coaches. Betts, ARE , Suisham, Campbell, Washington, Smoot, Plac, Thrash, Jansen, Rabach..........let me just stop right here, take a deep breath and walk away from my computer. Sorry for anyone who wasted time reading this.

So basically, why be mediocre now when we can be terrible now and mediocre later?

[SOUL-SKINS]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

So basically, why be mediocre now when we can be terrible now and mediocre later?

GTripp, we all agree something must change. Cowher is proven, boring but proven. I like Zorn as much as anybody but I think he is more of a coordinator. As far as Campbell goes i just think there is alot better out there.
We are all pissed off right now. I live for this shit. I wake up every Sunday morning like its Christmas for kids. It ****ing breaks my heart when we lose. I just want to win.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS

GTripp, we all agree something must change. Cowher is proven, boring but proven. I like Zorn as much as anybody but I think he is more of a coordinator. As far as Campbell goes i just think there is alot better out there.
We are all pissed off right now. I live for this shit. I wake up every Sunday morning like its Christmas for kids. It ****ing breaks my heart when we lose. I just want to win.

Well, your solutions don't make me think you just want to win. Makes me think that as long as Snyder gets angry and spills his wrath everywhere and fires everyone, you'll feel better about this.

There's also the whole overreaction period that we're in now, before people start to realize that Campbell pitched a very good game today, and that the running game and run after catch game (Cooley) is what killed us today, not the passing game.

But at no point should it be suggested that we blow it all up. Though I'm not surprised that the thread-beginner thinks the way he does, he's generally not right about much.

[Smooter]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

he's generally not right about much.

Yeah, judging by this thread holcknowsleast.

[redskinsgirl]

Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS

GTripp, we all agree something must change. Cowher is proven, boring but proven. I like Zorn as much as anybody but I think he is more of a coordinator. As far as Campbell goes i just think there is alot better out there.
We are all pissed off right now. I live for this shit. I wake up every Sunday morning like its Christmas for kids. It ****ing breaks my heart when we lose. I just want to win.

Who is out there that is alot better? What QB that is really good in going to be FA in the offseason? What QB who is really good would want to play for the skins??? No one is going to trade Brady, P. Manning, Big Ben. Skins have 5 draft picks and have major issures they need to address. They can't really afford to draft a QB. They are team with QB who play worse than Campbell (i.e. Vikings, Panthers, Titans) who are going to make the playoffs.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by redskinsgirl

Who is out there that is alot better? What QB that is really good in going to be FA in the offseason? What QB who is really good would want to play for the skins??? No one is going to trade Brady, P. Manning, Big Ben. Skins have 5 draft picks and have major issures they need to address. They can't really afford to draft a QB. They are team with QB who play worse than Campbell (i.e. Vikings, Panthers, Titans) who are going to make the playoffs.

Good post and analysis, thanks.

[wolfeskins]

the skins need to keep the coaching staff (for the most part)but the skins do need to get rid of some players like suishum,jansen,washington,springs and a few others. the skins need to upgrade the o-line, the d-line and the kicking game.

[NM Redskin]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

the skins need to keep the coaching staff (for the most part)but the skins do need to get rid of some players like suishum,jansen,washington,springs and a few others. the skins need to upgrade the o-line, the d-line and the kicking game.

At the very least I see major over haul of the assistant coaches. I don't see many of the current Off assistants staying and I could see Zorn bringing assistant from Seattle to replace them. I think Blanche retires and we have to find a new D staff.

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by NM Redskin

At the very least I see major over haul of the assistant coaches. I don't see many of the current Off assistants staying and I could see Zorn bringing assistant from Seattle to replace them. I think Blanche retires and we have to find a new D staff.

yea, i could see some assistant coaches leaving.

[HoosForCooley]

Here is how I feel, I have been a life long 30 year Redskins fan and UVA fan. I have been watching mediocre football for almost half my life. I think we need a few core changes.

1. Coach. I know I will get crushed for this but we need someone with emotion. Someone who reminds these guys that they are playing a tough sport and not just a paycheck.

2. DEPTH! Look at these other teams, they have fresh guys who can come in and make plays. We have Portis and Santana but literally it stops there. Not one capable backup.

3. Some sort of line. Campbell is a fine QB, but right now he is looking around and rushing because he basically has no time to get rid of the ball. He has regressed this because he is basically a tackling dummy for the other team.

We are an old tired team. Its time to drop Vinny and get a real GM in here. He plays real football like it is a game of madden. Signing veterans and trading for older player with draft picks. We are basically an emotional roller coaster.

[redskinsgirl]

Originally Posted by HoosForCooley

Here is how I feel, I have been a life long 30 year Redskins fan and UVA fan. I have been watching mediocre football for almost half my life. I think we need a few core changes.

1. Coach. I know I will get crushed for this but we need someone with emotion. Someone who reminds these guys that they are playing a tough sport and not just a paycheck.

2. DEPTH! Look at these other teams, they have fresh guys who can come in and make plays. We have Portis and Santana but literally it stops there. Not one capable backup.

3. Some sort of line. Campbell is a fine QB, but right now he is looking around and rushing because he basically has no time to get rid of the ball. He has regressed this because he is basically a tackling dummy for the other team.

We are an old tired team. Its time to drop Vinny and get a real GM in here. He plays real football like it is a game of madden. Signing veterans and trading for older player with draft picks. We are basically an emotional roller coaster.

I agree with you. The skins problem is they lack depth and are old. All teams have to do is take Portis and Moss out of the game and then you have no other options. Cooley hasn't really been able to be used this year because he has to spend so much time help blocking.

Look at a team like the Giants. The don't miss a beat when their star DE, RB, and WR have been out of games. The skins are not that type of team.

[SOUL-SKINS]

Originally Posted by redskinsgirl

Who is out there that is alot better? What QB that is really good in going to be FA in the offseason? What QB who is really good would want to play for the skins??? No one is going to trade Brady, P. Manning, Big Ben. Skins have 5 draft picks and have major issures they need to address. They can't really afford to draft a QB. They are team with QB who play worse than Campbell (i.e. Vikings, Panthers, Titans) who are going to make the playoffs.

If you think JC is better than Jake Delhomme your sadly mistaken. I think JC should have some competition next preseason. I do agree we have other major issue's to address in the draft. Colt will be #2 next year. If JC struggles you won't see him again unless Colt gets hurt. LISTEN... EITHER YOU HAVE IT OR YOU DON'T. JC DOES NOT.....YOU ARE WHAT YOU ARE.....just an O.K. Qb.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS

If you think JC is better than Jake Delhomme your sadly mistaken. I think JC should have some competition next preseason. I do agree we have other major issue's to address in the draft. Colt will be #2 next year. If JC struggles you won't see him again unless Colt gets hurt. LISTEN... EITHER YOU HAVE IT OR YOU DON'T. JC DOES NOT.....YOU ARE WHAT YOU ARE.....just an O.K. Qb.

Campbell is a lot better than Jake Delhomme. It's not even close this year, and Delhomme even has Steve Smith.

What is this either you have it or you don't garbage? Campbell has most if not all of the qualities a good QB needs. You can't make up a dualism: good QBs and bad QBs, and then assert that Campbell is an "Ok" QB and belongs in neither category.

Congratulations, you just broke multiple logical rules...that we're created by you and are likely wrong and oversimplifed to begin with.

[SOUL-SKINS]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Campbell is a lot better than Jake Delhomme. It's not even close this year, and Delhomme even has Steve Smith.

What is this either you have it or you don't garbage? Campbell has most if not all of the qualities a good QB needs. You can't make up a dualism: good QBs and bad QBs, and then assert that Campbell is an "Ok" QB and belongs in neither category.

Congratulations, you just broke multiple logical rules...that we're created by you and are likely wrong and oversimplifed to begin with.

You honestly think Campbell is or will be an elite QB in the NFL. Wow.
Jake has battled injuries this year by the way and yes he is having average season but he took his team to the ****ing Super Bowl and a Conference Championship game by his 5th year. This is Campbell's 4th year. So how is JC better. Please explain why. You seem to have all the answers. Not to mention the Panthers are 11-3 this year with Jake at Qb.

[ElkridgeSkins]

Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS

You honestly think Campbell is or will be an elite QB in the NFL. Wow.
Jake has battled injuries this year by the way and yes he is having average season but he took his team to the ****ing Super Bowl and a Conference Championship game by his 5th year. This is Campbell's 4th year. So how is JC better. Please explain why. You seem to have all the answers. Not to mention the Panthers are 11-3 this year with Jake at Qb.

I agree. Campbell is in his 4th year, and I am afraid this is as good as he is going to get. He has in my opinion above average weapons on offense. He is slow to make decisions, which often cause him to throw behind or into tight coverage. He does not feel pressure well in the pocket and is not quick of feet. He has a long baseball pitcher type throwing motion which would be fine if he made quick decisions but he doesn't. What I like least about him is his lack of emotion on the field and in the huddle. I think his stoic behavior would be of benefit in a big game, but he won't ever be in one. He doesn't seem to have any fire in his belly. I think it's time to see what Colt can do.