On Blache

[Hail to the Redskins]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Wrong. The defense played great, but they only blitzed once (that I saw). That was the point. Blache had been calling bad games, using ineffectual blitzes and unnecessarily putting pressure on the back end. Today he played coverage and, well you saw the results. You have to understand the argument to have a decent rebuttal. This game actually proved Tripp's point. Great defensive effort, great play calling by Blache.

1) You HONESTLY want to say we just blitzed once today?

2) So when we don't play run first, great play calling, but if we play run first, and don't get any pressure, terrible play calling & our pass defense is below average. (??)

you are right, it is hard to understand your argument.

Clear as day we are top 10 in run defense and pass defense...
ANY kind of "blitz percentage" or "yards per completion" argument is definitely not understood by me... I clearly am an idiot.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

1) You HONESTLY want to say we just blitzed once today?

2) So when we don't play run first, great play calling, but if we play run first, and don't get any pressure, terrible play calling & our pass defense is below average. (??)

you are right, it is hard to understand your argument.

Clear as day we are top 10 in run defense and pass defense...
ANY kind of "blitz percentage" or "yards per completion" argument is definitely not understood by me... I clearly am an idiot.

Yes, I saw one blitz. Might have missed one or two, but they were not bringing all those blitzes that they used in previous weeks. Tripp might have been a larger argument (after reading back over the thread), he can speak for himself. My argument was more simple; Blache used too many blitzes that weren't working and putting unnecessary pressure on the DBs and giving the QBs easy reads. The numbers are there, 2nd (or so) in the league in blitz percentage going into this week. Today they brought four most of the time and only rushed three a bunch of the time. Good play calling since they have proven that they can't get pressure even by blitzing. McNabb struggled to find open receivers (and made some bad throws and had some key drops).

[Hail to the Redskins]

Originally Posted by SC Skins Fan

Yes, I saw one blitz. Might have missed one or two, but they were not bringing all those blitzes that they used in previous weeks. Tripp might have been a larger argument (after reading back over the thread), he can speak for himself. My argument was more simple; Blache used too many blitzes that weren't working and putting unnecessary pressure on the DBs and giving the QBs easy reads. The numbers are there, 2nd (or so) in the league in blitz percentage going into this week. Today they brought four most of the time and only rushed three a bunch of the time. Good play calling since they have proven that they can't get pressure even by blitzing. McNabb struggled to find open receivers (and made some bad throws and had some key drops).

The funny thing about you and discussing this is that I agree, I hate our blitz packages. We hardly ever are successful on blitzes. So we agree in your argument.

But... all I have been saying all along is that:
1) our offense is AWFUL
2) our defense is certainly not equally accountable for us not making the playoffs
3) Points allowed is more important than "blitz" stats or "yards per completion", etc.
4) our pass defense is NOT below average

That's all... those 4 things. Now, I used alot of statistics, etc. to try and show this, but obviously, I'm trippin on acid and seeing things that no one else sees when they watch the Redskins play or look at the stats I provide, cause my argument is inferior... I'll have to accept that to some of you feel that way.

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

The funny thing about you and discussing this is that I agree, I hate our blitz packages. We hardly ever are successful on blitzes. So we agree in your argument.

But... all I have been saying all along is that:
1) our offense is AWFUL
2) our defense is certainly not equally accountable for us not making the playoffs
3) Points allowed is more important than "blitz" stats or "yards per completion", etc.
4) our pass defense is NOT below average

That's all... those 4 things. Now, I used alot of statistics, etc. to try and show this, but obviously, I'm trippin on acid and seeing things that no one else sees when they watch the Redskins play or look at the stats I provide, cause my argument is inferior... I'll have to accept that to some of you feel that way.

The Redskins actually blitzed 7 times (out of 50 pass attempts). They got pressure on one (but McNabb hit Smith for a first down). This is every Eagles pass play with the number of Redskins rushers. I think I probably agree with your point. I just thought Blache had done a poor job calling games and used too many blitzes in previous weeks.

1-10-PHI 35 (12:03) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass short left to 82-L.Smith to PHI 40 for 5 yards (22-C.Rogers). 3
3-2-PHI 43 (10:44) 5-D.McNabb pass short right to 10-D.Jackson pushed ob at WAS 49 for 8 yards (23-D.Hall) [99-A.Carter]. 4
1-10-WAS 49 (9:59) (Shotgun) PENALTY on PHI-83-G.Lewis, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at WAS 49 - No Play. 4
2-16-PHI 45 (8:52) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass incomplete short middle to 10-D.Jackson (59-L.Fletcher). 3
3-16-PHI 45 (8:47) 5-D.McNabb pass incomplete deep middle to 81-J.Avant. 3

2-8-PHI 18 (5:02) 5-D.McNabb pass short right to 87-B.Celek pushed ob at PHI 26 for 8 yards (52-R.McIntosh). 3
1-10-PHI 26 (4:28) 5-D.McNabb pass incomplete short left to 49-D.Klecko. 4
3-8-PHI 28 (3:38) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb sacked at PHI 18 for -10 yards (55-J.Taylor). 4

1-10-PHI 47 (14:05) 5-D.McNabb pass short middle to 28-C.Buckhalter to WAS 42 for 11 yards (30-L.Landry, 54-H.Blades). 4
1-10-WAS 42 (13:30) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass incomplete short middle to 82-L.Smith. 5 Blitz (McIntosh)
3-6-WAS 38 (12:48) 5-D.McNabb pass short right to 49-D.Klecko to WAS 36 for 2 yards (54-H.Blades, 27-F.Smoot). 3

2-8-PHI 22 (2:46) 5-D.McNabb pass incomplete short middle to 82-L.Smith. 3
Timeout #1 by PHI at 02:41.
3-8-PHI 22 (2:41) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass short right to 82-L.Smith to PHI 30 for 8 yards (27-F.Smoot, 92-D.Evans). Washington challenged the first down ruling, and the play was REVERSED. (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass short right to 82-L.Smith to PHI 29 for 7 yards (27-F.Smoot, 92-D.Evans). 3

2-7-PHI 20 (14:14) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass incomplete deep middle to 10-D.Jackson (30-L.Landry, 53-M.Washington). 3
Timeout #1 by PHI at 14:05.
3-7-PHI 20 (14:05) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass short right to 86-R.Brown to PHI 30 for 10 yards (27-F.Smoot). 3
1-13-PHI 27 (12:52) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb scrambles left end pushed ob at PHI 30 for 3 yards (24-S.Springs). 4
3-3-PHI 37 (11:37) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb sacked at PHI 30 for -7 yards (55-J.Taylor). FUMBLES (55-J.Taylor), RECOVERED by WAS-59-L.Fletcher at PHI 30. 59-L.Fletcher to PHI 18 for 12 yards (69-J.Runyan). 4

1-10-PHI 20 (8:43) 5-D.McNabb pass short right to 83-G.Lewis to PHI 25 for 5 yards (24-S.Springs). 4
2-5-PHI 25 (8:07) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass incomplete short middle to 36-B.Westbrook. 3
3-5-PHI 25 (8:02) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass short middle to 82-L.Smith to PHI 42 for 17 yards (48-C.Horton). 3
2-11-PHI 41 (6:45) 5-D.McNabb pass deep left to 36-B.Westbrook to WAS 12 for 47 yards (23-D.Hall). WAS-79-L.Alexander was injured during the play. He is Out. 3
1-10-WAS 12 (5:50) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass incomplete short middle to 82-L.Smith (30-L.Landry) [99-A.Carter]. 3
2-10-WAS 12 (5:44) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass short middle to 81-J.Avant to WAS 5 for 7 yards (24-S.Springs). 5 (Blades)
3-3-WAS 5 (5:03) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass short left to 36-B.Westbrook to WAS 4 for 1 yard (48-C.Horton). 4

1-10-PHI 9 (15:00) 5-D.McNabb pass incomplete short left to 86-R.Brown. 5 (Washington)
2-10-PHI 9 (14:56) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass short middle to 36-B.Westbrook to PHI 15 for 6 yards (59-L.Fletcher). 4
3-4-PHI 15 (14:13) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass incomplete short middle to 81-J.Avant. 4

1-10-PHI 3 (11:18) 5-D.McNabb pass short right to 10-D.Jackson to PHI 9 for 6 yards (23-D.Hall). 4
2-4-PHI 9 (10:35) 5-D.McNabb pass incomplete short middle to 87-B.Celek (23-D.Hall). 5 (Washington)
3-4-PHI 9 (10:30) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass short right to 82-L.Smith to PHI 11 for 2 yards (23-D.Hall). 3

1-10-PHI 10 (8:15) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass incomplete short middle to 86-R.Brown (23-D.Hall). 6 (McIntosh and Fletcher)
2-10-PHI 10 (8:09) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass incomplete short middle to 10-D.Jackson (24-S.Springs). 4
3-10-PHI 10 (8:03) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass incomplete short right to 10-D.Jackson. 4

1-10-PHI 20 (6:09) 5-D.McNabb pass incomplete deep left to 10-D.Jackson. 4
2-10-PHI 20 (6:03) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass short right to 82-L.Smith to PHI 21 for 1 yard (24-S.Springs, 48-C.Horton). 4
3-9-PHI 21 (5:24) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb left end pushed ob at PHI 26 for 5 yards (95-C.Wilson). 4

2-7-PHI 12 (3:11) 5-D.McNabb pass short middle to 86-R.Brown to PHI 22 for 10 yards (23-D.Hall). 4 (Springs and Rogers came, Monty and Taylor dropped)
1-10-PHI 22 (2:47) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass short middle to 36-B.Westbrook to PHI 28 for 6 yards (59-L.Fletcher). 4
2-4-PHI 28 (2:15) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass short right to 28-C.Buckhalter to PHI 35 for 7 yards (22-C.Rogers). 3
Two-Minute Warning
1-10-PHI 35 (2:00) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass short middle to 82-L.Smith to PHI 41 for 6 yards (59-L.Fletcher). 3
2-4-PHI 41 (1:38) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass short middle to 81-J.Avant to 50 for 9 yards (24-S.Springs). 3
1-10- (1:14) (No Huddle, Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass incomplete short middle to 81-J.Avant. 3
2-10- (1:10) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass short left to 86-R.Brown pushed ob at WAS 40 for 10 yards (27-F.Smoot). 4
1-10-WAS 40 (1:05) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass incomplete deep right to 10-D.Jackson (23-D.Hall). 3
2-10-WAS 40 (:57) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass short middle to 82-L.Smith to WAS 29 for 11 yards (23-D.Hall). 5 (Springs)
1-10-WAS 29 (:39) (No Huddle) 5-D.McNabb spiked the ball to stop the clock.
2-10-WAS 29 (:39) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass incomplete deep middle to 81-J.Avant (22-C.Rogers). 4
3-10-WAS 29 (:34) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass short middle to 36-B.Westbrook to WAS 23 for 6 yards (59-L.Fletcher). 5 (Horton)
Timeout #3 by PHI at 00:27.
4-4-WAS 23 (:27) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass short left to 36-B.Westbrook to WAS 18 for 5 yards (55-J.Taylor). 3
1-10-WAS 18 (:27) (No Huddle) 5-D.McNabb spiked the ball to stop the clock.
2-10-WAS 18 (:12) (Shotgun) 5-D.McNabb pass deep middle to 86-R.Brown to WAS 1 for 17 yards (27-F.Smoot, 30-L.Landry). The Replay Assistant challenged the runner broke the plane ruling, and the play was Upheld. 3

[Hail to the Redskins]

Wow. Kudos for the effort. But yeah we did blitz more in other games... but again, we agree on this point and I feel like it's something that DEFINITELY needs to be addressed. But... the overall point of mine is to not point the finger at the D for our woes this year because these bad blitzes have not KILLED our defense this year as we are still are top 10 in my mind and in the important stats (yards allowed/points allowed)... regardless of blitz percentages... if you disagree, then so be it.