A 2009 Spring Dream....

[MTK]

Samuels is too valuable at LT, it would be easier to find a new starter at RT than at LT.

[SmootSmack]

Free agents

LB Karlos Dansby
OT Jordan Gross/Vernon Carey
DB Daven Holly

Draft (trade down)

OG Duke Robinson
DT SenDerrick Marks
DE Connor Barwin
RB Shon Greene

[Sheriff Gonna Getcha]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Free agents

LB Karlos Dansby
OT Jordan Gross/Vernon Carey
DB Daven Holly

Draft (trade down)

OG Duke Robinson
DT SenDerrick Marks
DE Connor Barwin
RB Shon Greene

I'd be thrilled with that kind of offseason.

[WaldSkins]

Im begining to think Haynesworth is more of a system player after Jason Jones starting in his place an got 3.5 sacks.

[holcknowsbest]

Jordan Gross
restructure taylors deal (add a year convert the 8 mil to signing bonus over 2 years)
round 1 trade back for a 1st and 3rd
trade back again for two 2nds
2-brain cushing/clay mathews lbs-usc
2-fili moala dt-usc
3-rich ohrnberger g-penn state

[30gut]

I think we have a 1,3,5,7(?)

I would try and trade some players for draft picks if they hurt the cap.
Like Betts and Todd Collins (i have no idea about their cap numbers)
You think Betts could get a 4th and a 6th?

Then i would trade the 1st pick for 2 picks, hopefully a later 1st and a 2nd or 2 2nd round picks.

Then trade the one the 2nd round picks for a 3rd and 4th.

Then i would draft BPA: DL x 2, OL x 3, LB, RB

[RMSkins]

Originally Posted by holcknowsbest

Jordan Gross
restructure taylors deal (add a year convert the 8 mil to signing bonus over 2 years)
round 1 trade back for a 1st and 3rd
trade back again for two 2nds
2-brain cushing/clay mathews lbs-usc
2-fili moala dt-usc
3-rich ohrnberger g-penn state

You must be a USC fan. I'm not a huge fan of Cushing or Mathews they remind me of a more hyped Dallas Sartz and they have virtually the same stats and measurables.

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

You must be a USC fan. I'm not a huge fan of Cushing or Mathews they remind me of a more hyped Dallas Sartz and they have virtually the same stats and measurables.

Dude, Sartz played with smarts in college- not much athletic ability. Cush is the real deal- everyone is talking about Rey Rey, but Brian is definitely more consistent. All of our LB'rs are super athletic and play sideline to sideline with a nasty streak. Watch the Rose Bowl on New Year's day and see Cush eat the Baby Lions for lunch.

[holcknowsbest]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

You must be a USC fan. I'm not a huge fan of Cushing or Mathews they remind me of a more hyped Dallas Sartz and they have virtually the same stats and measurables.

you must not watch them play football? thats ok but comparing those two with dallas sartz is a serious mistake and shows me that you dont know talent when you see it. sartz didnt walk in the door at usc in the hieghts of the programs history and start like cushing.....sartz was not 253 pounds and didnt run a 4.6 forty. mathews you could argue but this kid can rush the passer and is an all around play maker......sartz was neither of these guys esspecially cushing.......i think you should look at what you said and wonder why you are comparing sartz to cushing.....the only reason is they went usc, and cushing started over him as an 18 year old freshman.....but really i am not a usc fan just a huge fan of defense and talented ones at that.

[RMSkins]

Originally Posted by holcknowsbest

you must not watch them play football? thats ok but comparing those two with dallas sartz is a serious mistake and shows me that you dont know talent when you see it. sartz didnt walk in the door at usc in the hieghts of the programs history and start like cushing.....sartz was not 253 pounds and didnt run a 4.6 forty. mathews you could argue but this kid can rush the passer and is an all around play maker......sartz was neither of these guys esspecially cushing.......i think you should look at what you said and wonder why you are comparing sartz to cushing.....the only reason is they went usc, and cushing started over him as an 18 year old freshman.....but really i am not a usc fan just a huge fan of defense and talented ones at that.

Thats funny because I just went back and looked at Cushing's and Sartz's stats and measurables and they're virtually the same, with Sartz being much more productive in many of the categories. By the way Cushing only started over Sartz that one year because Sartz was injured, nice try though. I understand that you can't just go by stats and that many scouts see Cushing as being a better prospect than Sartz but i'm just showing you how easily comparable the two players are. I'm just not sold on Cushing at all I just think that he's a hyped up USC Linebacker who is a benefactor of a great defensive scheme.

Dallas Sartz 6'5" 240 lbs. 4.58 40 (Pro Day results)
Final College Stats: 194 TCKS 22.5 TFL 12.5 SCKS 16 PD 2 INT

Brian Cushing 6'3" 255 lbs. 4.75 40
Final College Stats: 171 TCKS 26.5 TFL 8 SCKS 12 PD 1 INT

Sources:
Brian Cushing | USC Scouting Report - 2009 NFL Draft Prospect
Player Bio: Dallas Sartz :: Football
Dallas Sartz | Southern Cal, OLB : 2007 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile
usctrojans.com - Football (Dallas Sartz 2006 Stats)
usctrojans.com - Football (Brian Cushing 2008 Stats)

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

Thats funny because I just went back and looked at Cushing's and Sartz's stats and measurables and they're virtually the same, with Sartz being much more productive in many of the categories. By the way Cushing only started over Sartz that one year because Sartz was injured, nice try though. I understand that you can't just go by stats and that many scouts see Cushing as being a better prospect than Sartz but i'm just showing you how easily comparable the two players are. I'm just not sold on Cushing at all I just think that he's a hyped up USC Linebacker who is a benefactor of a great defensive scheme.

Dallas Sartz 6'5" 240 lbs. 4.58 40 (Pro Day results)
Final College Stats: 194 TCKS 22.5 TFL 12.5 SCKS 16 PD 2 INT

Brian Cushing 6'3" 255 lbs. 4.75 40
Final College Stats: 171 TCKS 26.5 TFL 8 SCKS 12 PD 1 INT

Sources:
Brian Cushing | USC Scouting Report - 2009 NFL Draft Prospect
Player Bio: Dallas Sartz :: Football
Dallas Sartz*|*Southern Cal,*OLB*:*2007 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile
usctrojans.com - Football (Dallas Sartz 2006 Stats)
usctrojans.com - Football (Brian Cushing 2008 Stats)

I'd be skeptical of pre-combine and pro-day numbers. A lot of those 40 times are estimates. Plus it's obvious Cushing has something that Startz doesn't, my guess is part of the reasons he's grading out as a first rounder is because he has a higher football IQ. Though I'm willing to bet that come April Cushing will be a 2nd or 3rd round pick even if he's still graded as a late first rounder.

[holcknowsbest]

Originally Posted by RMSkins

Thats funny because I just went back and looked at Cushing's and Sartz's stats and measurables and they're virtually the same, with Sartz being much more productive in many of the categories. By the way Cushing only started over Sartz that one year because Sartz was injured, nice try though. I understand that you can't just go by stats and that many scouts see Cushing as being a better prospect than Sartz but i'm just showing you how easily comparable the two players are. I'm just not sold on Cushing at all I just think that he's a hyped up USC Linebacker who is a benefactor of a great defensive scheme.

Dallas Sartz 6'5" 240 lbs. 4.58 40 (Pro Day results)
Final College Stats: 194 TCKS 22.5 TFL 12.5 SCKS 16 PD 2 INT

Brian Cushing 6'3" 255 lbs. 4.75 40
Final College Stats: 171 TCKS 26.5 TFL 8 SCKS 12 PD 1 INT

Sources:
Brian Cushing | USC Scouting Report - 2009 NFL Draft Prospect
Player Bio: Dallas Sartz :: Football
Dallas Sartz*|*Southern Cal,*OLB*:*2007 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile
usctrojans.com - Football (Dallas Sartz 2006 Stats)
usctrojans.com - Football (Brian Cushing 2008 Stats)

source all you want. cushing is the better player hands down! sartz didnt make a roster, cushing will start as a rookie barring any injury. if you disagree with the pick in the second round fine, i would love to get him in the third if we could, but dallas sartz isnt on the same level as cushing....comparing stats is for nerds, watch the film see whos shows up.

[53Fan]

7th rounder went for Erasmus James.

[SBXVII]

We still have one more game to swipe Dre Moore from the Bucs. Everyone here was commenting on how he was a monster young talent.

[SBXVII]

according to Zorn....in reference to Suisham;
“The only concern I have is wanting him to start getting into a rhythm. That’s the only concern I have.

He’ll just see another kicker to compete against and they’ll go at it. But as soon as he finds his rhythm, I think he’ll be lights out again.


according to Zorn ...in reference to Plackemeier;
“Remember this: for me, it’s the same issue as Ryan Plackemeier. Here’s a guy with great talent, came in here, was kicking horribly. He knew it, we knew it, what are we gonna do about it? Do we just move him on and just get the next guy in? There’s kind of a group of punters and a group of kickers and they all rotate until they find a home, and what the do when they find a home, you know what they do? They get coached and they find their rhythm.”

Hmmm. I thought it was all about "Execution" and now he throws in some new word.........rhythm. We definitly need to bring in some other talent for kicking. If he truely thought it was about coaching he would have found a way to keep the kicker from the draft and (cough, cough) coached him up.