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Old 12-24-2008, 11:25 AM   #1
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I don't think I've ever seen a guy get criticized so much for IMPROVING! Some of the major criticisms on Campbell coming into the season were:

Accuracy-He's improved from 60% to 62.4%
Too many checkdowns-34 completions over 20 yds, up from 30
Ball security-He had 13 fumbles (8 lost) and 11 interceptions (-19) in '07 vs. 7 fumbles (1 lost) and 6 INT (-7), that's a significant improvement in protecting the ball
Wasn't a winner-He's in position to lead us to our first back to back winning seasons in over a decade

His TD:INT ratio is 2:1 which most teams would love. He's not a gunslinger, probably never will be, but for people to continue to shred this guy like he's the second coming of Heath Shuler is baffling.
You know... Not to start anything but a guy called into the John Thompson show... Yesterday I think it was and pointed out that JC's numbers (overall) seem to be eerily close to our other favorite Redskin QB... Patrick Ramsey.

Take it how you want to. I'm staying neutral on the issue.
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Old 12-24-2008, 11:39 AM   #2
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You know... Not to start anything but a guy called into the John Thompson show... Yesterday I think it was and pointed out that JC's numbers (overall) seem to be eerily close to our other favorite Redskin QB... Patrick Ramsey.

Take it how you want to. I'm staying neutral on the issue.
Not sure I see it.

ESPN - Patrick Ramsey Stats, News, Photos - Denver Broncos

ESPN - Jason Campbell Stats, News, Photos - Washington Redskins

Just comparing their first 3 seasons Ramsey threw for 3,990 yards, 33 TDs, and 29 INTs with a completion % of 55.6

JC in his first 3 seasons has throw for 7,086 yards, 34 TDs, 23 INTs, 59.7 completion %.

Ramsey has proven himself to not be starting caliber in this league despite what his legion of supporters like to think. I think JC has proven this year he's a capable starter with room to grow.
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Old 12-24-2008, 12:05 PM   #3
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Not sure I see it.

ESPN - Patrick Ramsey Stats, News, Photos - Denver Broncos

ESPN - Jason Campbell Stats, News, Photos - Washington Redskins

Just comparing their first 3 seasons Ramsey threw for 3,990 yards, 33 TDs, and 29 INTs with a completion % of 55.6

JC in his first 3 seasons has throw for 7,086 yards, 34 TDs, 23 INTs, 59.7 completion %.

Ramsey has proven himself to not be starting caliber in this league despite what his legion of supporters like to think. I think JC has proven this year he's a capable starter with room to grow.
Makes sense.

I didn't know if it was right or not, just reiterating what I heard. The guy on the radio didn't get a chance to defend his point, he was shrieking at the top of his lungs and Brian Mitchell hung up on him.
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Makes sense.

I didn't know if it was right or not, just reiterating what I heard. The guy on the radio didn't get a chance to defend his point, he was shrieking at the top of his lungs and Brian Mitchell hung up on him.
Was his name offiss?
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Makes sense.

I didn't know if it was right or not, just reiterating what I heard. The guy on the radio didn't get a chance to defend his point, he was shrieking at the top of his lungs and Brian Mitchell hung up on him.
That's funny. I heard the same call. I was cracking up. Dude sounded like he wanted to jump through the phone and kill someone in defense of good old Patrick Pitch. Mitchell was like, "are you outta your damn mind screaming at me like that??"
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You know... Not to start anything but a guy called into the John Thompson show... Yesterday I think it was and pointed out that JC's numbers (overall) seem to be eerily close to our other favorite Redskin QB... Patrick Ramsey.

Take it how you want to. I'm staying neutral on the issue.
They were pretty close through their first two seasons as a starter, but Campbell's 2007 is pretty much leaps and bounds above Ramsey's 2004.

And while it's not totally inaccurate to say that Gibbs gave up on Ramsey before it was conclusively proven that he couldn't play, Campbell has already proven to his coaches that he can play by the same standard. Which is pretty key.
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