Matt Cassell: Joke or No Joke

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You don't think Cassell threw a ton of short passes to Welker??

109 to be exact. They don't call Wes Welker "The Slot Machine" for nothing.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

You don't think Cassell threw a ton of short passes to Welker??

I do think he threw a lot of short stuff. I just didn't see enough of their games to make a judgement on him. But the games I did see he looked pretty damn good for a guy that hadn't started a game since high school. He wasn't as razor sharp as Brady but the dude hasn't played so I think with time he can be a damn good starter. If you ask me he's just as good as JC.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I do think he threw a lot of short stuff. I just didn't see enough of their games to make a judgement on him. But the games I did see he looked pretty damn good for a guy that hadn't started a game since high school. He wasn't as razor sharp as Brady but the dude hasn't played so I think with time he can be a damn good starter. If you ask me he's just as good as JC.

Or he could be the Derek Anderson of 2008. The jury is still out IMO, but thus far Cassell looks very promising. Reagrdless, he's gonna get paid big time.

[44ever]

The only thing this proves is Cassell has what it takes to play in a working system. JC has not had the oportunity to play in such as a Skin. Bring Cassell here and I doubt he could do any better than JC.

In fact it's sad in a way that JC has had to play on our team. I believe we thus far have held back greatness. Not that I want to see him go.

[The Goat]

Cassell is a good QB working in a superior system. Bringing him to Washington won't really help us IMO. Different system and less talent for him to work with - not a great scenario.

Besides, JC is becoming the team leader. I was considering starting a thread on this but i'll just mention here that CP effectively removed himself as the team leader w/ his antics this season. This is just the way I see it. Meanwhile JC took a beating all season (sacked 38 times) and continued to stand tall in the pocket. He started moving the ball whether there was a downfield option, using his legs. And he's showing more personality/leadership now than ever. By opening day '09 JC is the unquestionable leader of this team.

[Meks]

No Joke.

he;s only gonna get better

[MTK]

JC has 16 career wins, if you're gonna bash him at least take the time to look things up.

His completion % was slightly less than Cassell's. I don't see where there's a huge difference between either guy. I don't understand how any definitive statements can be made about how JC would play with a NE type of cast around him. We won't know for sure until he actually gets that chance.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

JC has 16 career wins, if you're gonna bash him at least take the time to look things up.

His completion % was slightly less than Cassell's. I don't see where there's a huge difference between either guy. I don't understand how any definitive statements can be made about how JC would play with a NE type of cast around him. We won't know for sure until he actually gets that chance.

It was a question as to how many wins he had, hence the question mark.

NE would never draft JC (let alone give up draft pick for him) because their front office is smart enough to recognize that he's not a pro style QB. There isnt a huge difference but there is a difference (especially the TD passes) and with an O that almost never threw a pass deeper that 20 yds its hard to get excited about what JC can do. Even Sonny said Sat night on Redskins Report that JC has never shown any sign or spark that he can be great and that concerned him. Right now the Skins dont have any better option at QB so I see no reason to change but I stand by my prediction that JC wont be the starter in 2010.

[44ever]

does anyone remember a guy named Doug Williams? Remember what happened when he became a Redskin with the best system in the NFL? Remember what he did in Tampa?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by 44ever

does anyone remember a guy named Doug Williams? Remember what happened when he became a Redskin with the best system in the NFL? Remember what he did in Tampa?

Great point.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by 44ever

does anyone remember a guy named Doug Williams? Remember what happened when he became a Redskin with the best system in the NFL? Remember what he did in Tampa?

Most QB's are only as good as the players around him and DW is a classic example of this. He was never the type that could carry a team like Elway. But he did lead TB to a NFC championship and did play well down there. But with The Posse and the best line in football a lot of QB's could've come here ( during Gibbs one) and played well. Imagine what Marino could've done under Gibbs one? We almost drafted him too. He would've sat behind those lines and Monk, Clark and Sanders might have all gone to the HOF.

[saden1]

You guys need to upgrade your minds to Irish Logic™ 2.0 to comprehend irish wisdom.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by saden1

You guys need to upgrade your minds to Irish Logic™ 2.0 to comprehend irish wisdom.

If he would just change his username to "The Contrarian," it would leave a lot less people befuddled.

[skinsqc]

Do you think that the redskins would have made the playoffs last year if jc didnt get hurt?I dont.I defended cambell since he became the starter but we have no chance to win a superbowl with him.A great quarterback makes the rest of the team better.Last year we was struggling on offense until his injury and collins sparked this team and took the 8th man off the line of scrimage.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by skinsqc

Do you think that the redskins would have made the playoffs last year if jc didnt get hurt?I dont.I defended cambell since he became the starter but we have no chance to win a superbowl with him.A great quarterback makes the rest of the team better.Last year we was struggling on offense until his injury and collins sparked this team and took the 8th man off the line of scrimage.

The stats, with the exception of the TD/INT ratio( JC is far superior) have JC at a level just above Gus Frerotte. Sometime around the midpoint of next season or just before JC will finally surpass Gus in all time Skins passing yardage, but will probably have to wait til 2010 to beat him in TD passes, unless we really get our shit together on offense and he can get it going.