Five Things I'm Sure About (sort of)

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Sorry, but Jason Campbell is not a starting WCO quarterback and he never will be. The dude's 28 and we're still making excuses for him. Hes too scared to throw anything other than a check down or crossing pattern. The guy has no balls, its as simple as that.

We need to sign Garcia to groom Brennan if we plan on sticking with the WCO another year. JC will fail in the WCO in 2009 and that will only hurt his trade value. We should move him now for whatever we can get. Jason Campbell is not the future here. The sooner we move on, the better.

I agree to some extent about JC and then some. JC definitely has the tools and I can understand some optimism about him if the line is upgraded for next season. The thing that bothered me was that during the last several weeks of the season, during the worst time of the collapse, he showed no leadership, or urgency. It took him almost the end of the year to learn to take off with the football if everyone was blanketed? God damn, Flacco did that all year!!!!!! You can say all you want about having 3 different offensive schemes thrown at you in 5 seasons, but you still should know how to run with it or show leadership at the NFL level. Also about JC is the fact Gibbs drafted him with HIS offense in mind, so JC just might be hindered by that fact you have mentioned that he might not be a WCO QB. At Auburn he was accustomed to an offense that was sort of like Gibbs, a strong running game with a downfield passing attack. I am hoping he can adjust to the WCO in '09 like the Goat thinks he will, but to me it is still a 50-50 proposition.

[44ever]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

I agree to some extent about JC and then some. JC definitely has the tools and I can understand some optimism about him if the line is upgraded for next season. The thing that bothered me was that during the last several weeks of the season, during the worst time of the collapse, he showed no leadership, or urgency. It took him almost the end of the year to learn to take off with the football if everyone was blanketed? God damn, Flacco did that all year!!!!!! You can say all you want about having 3 different offensive schemes thrown at you in 5 seasons, but you still should know how to run with it or show leadership at the NFL level. Also about JC is the fact Gibbs drafted him with HIS offense in mind, so JC just might be hindered by that fact you have mentioned that he might not be a WCO QB. At Auburn he was accustomed to an offense that was sort of like Gibbs, a strong running game with a downfield passing attack. I am hoping he can adjust to the WCO in '09 like the Goat thinks he will, but to me it is still a 50-50 proposition.

I think that's a fair argument. I'll tell you what perplexed me more is why he looked so different from the first part of the season to the last. He looked very good for a while. So he can do it. Were going to have to wait and see

[30gut]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

The thing that bothered me was that during the last several weeks of the season, during the worst time of the collapse, he showed no leadership, or urgency.

C'mon bro, you didn't see leadership?

Why because JC doesn't yell at lineman when they miss blocks or receivers when they drop passes?

I saw leadership when he marched down the field and scored against the 49ers.

I saw leadership when he lead the team down the field against the Bengals. (Sellars couldn't get in for the score though)

I saw leadership when he was delivering passes on target in the face of oncoming rush then getting blasted by defensive lineman and getting right back up.

I saw leadership in the comeback victories.

It took him almost the end of the year to learn to take off with the football if everyone was blanketed? God damn, Flacco did that all year!!!!!! You can say all you want about having 3 different offensive schemes thrown at you in 5 seasons, but you still should know how to run with it or show leadership at the NFL level.

Did you watch the games? B/c JC has been picking up yards all season.

Flacco rushing yards: 52 attempts 180 yards 3.5 avg 2 TDs
Campbell: 47 attempts 258 yards 5.5 avg 1 TD

Actually QFT:

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Campbell is one of the best quarterbacks in the league in terms of carrying the football, only Matt Cassel was a more effective runner this year according to Football Outsiders.

so JC just might be hindered by that fact you have mentioned that he might not be a WCO QB.

Not a good fit huh?

Do you just ignore the posts that you don't agree with?

2001: 176/321 54.8%, 2,023 yards, 7 TD, 8 INT, 70.9 rating
^^Hasselbecks 1st year running the WCO after a year watching in GB

2008: 315/506 62.3%, 3,245 yards, 13 TD, 6 INT, 84.3 rating
^^ JC 1st year in Zorn's WCO

It would appear that our QB is ahead of the WCO learning curve huh?
Looks like he's a good fit huh?

"I thought Jason would eventually play well under Jim Zorn," ESPN Monday Night Football analyst Ron Jaworski says. "I didn't think he'd play this well, this early.
"I've seen his game ascending. He can make every throw a quarterback has to have, the tough stick throw, the deep out, the seam route. He has great anticipation. I thought he'd become a rock-solid quarterback.
"That it's happened this quickly really is a tribute to Jim Zorn."

At Auburn he was accustomed to an offense that was sort of like Gibbs, a strong running game with a downfield passing attack.

Wrong again. In JC final year when Auburn went undefeated and JC was SEC offensive player of the year and SEC Championship MVP JC under OC Al Borges ran the drum roll please...the WCO