Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2009

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Man, this is a cool picture.

It could use two improvements:

1) Burgandy and Gold jersey
2) #9 on the ground

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

It could use two improvements:

1) Burgandy and Gold jersey
2) #9 on the ground

Hell Yeah!

[CrazyCanuck]

Originally Posted by JLC

In the meantime, I figured I'd post the contract for the one offensive lineman they have signed, Derrick Dockery. Most interesting thing with this one is that there is no signing bonus. Zero. Zilch. No upfront money, which allowed them to keep the cap number low in 2009. However, it does include $8.2 million in guaranteed salaries between 2009-2011, so Dockery knows he will be getting that much for sure. Here's the breakdown of the contract:

Base Salary Cap Number
2009 - $3.2 million $3.2
2010 - $2.91 $4.16
2011 - $3.815 $5.065
2012 - $4.775 $6.025
2013 - $5.735 $6.985
Contract voids in 2014

Bonuses:
Dockery has a $1 million option bonus each year beginning in 2010
There are $250,000 workout bonuses in 2010, 2011 and 2012

Guarantees:
Dockery's 2009 salary is guaranteed, and $5 million of his 2010-2011 is guaranteed

Been analyzing this and it doesn't seem to make sense.

- NLFPA has Dock signed thru 2014. The contract can probably be voided before the 2014 season but it still counts for signing bonus allocation purposes.

- Why is Dock's cap hit $6.985 in 2013? His salary is $5,735. The $1M option bonus JLC mentions (really a roster bonus) brings his cap hit to $6,735. But he says there is no $250K workout bonus in 2013 so where is the $250K difference?

My guess is that Dock will receive a $5M signing bonus in 2010. This plus his $3.2M guaranteed 2009 salary accounts for the $8.2M guaranteed portion of the contract. The $5M signing bonus will be allocated $1M per year from 2010-2014. In addition he probably receives a $250K workout bonus each year of the deal starting in 2010. Using this model Dock's cap hits would match JLC's "base salary cap numbers".

[That Guy]

that makes it look like 7mill in 2009, then 8.8mill in 2010 (6base + 5/5 2009, 3.6base + 5/5 + 21/5 2010)

i guess that meshes the best and all the money seems to be accounted for there. which means (after the golston correction) we might have 11.5-12mill free?

after reading the dockery deal and the better haynesworth info i don't know how JLC came up with 7mill...

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by That Guy

that makes it look like 7mill in 2009, then 8.8mill in 2010 (6base + 5/5 2009, 3.6base + 5/5 + 21/5 2010)

i guess that meshes the best and all the money seems to be accounted for there. which means (after the golston correction) we might have 11.5-12mill free?

after reading the dockery deal and the better haynesworth info i don't know how JLC came up with 7mill...

From his league source of course. Why do the work if you can call "someone" who can provide you with bad information!

[GusFrerotte]

Is 11 million enough to sign any decent FA offensive linemen and cover our draftees?

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Is 11 million enough to sign any decent FA offensive linemen and cover our draftees?

there's not really any decent OL left to sign. 3mill can cover rookies, and the team wants some money in case a mid-season signing is needed (due to injuries), but we're fine... we just need to find someone worth signing (i'd like crowell or burnett at LB, but there's been no movement).

barnes deal with the raiders might fall through... not sure what he wants though, cause he's not exactly amazing.

[CRedskinsRule]

To give the benefit of the doubt to JLC, if you tack on a Rookie Pool amount of 2.5, and add Khary Campbell back, you are just about at 7, raise the Rookie Pool some and you are there. Personally I think it's just lazy math (you know 1 +1 is about 3, depending on how big an assumption you make)

[T.O.Killa]

I am going with crazy canuck

[dmek25]

cc and schneed, thanks for what you guys do. its nice to be able to click, and see exactly where the skins stand.

[That Guy]

here's some numbers pulled directly from the nflpa (the search is only base salaries and only runs through 2014)

NFL Players Association

deangelo hall
2009 5mill
2010 3mill
2011 4.5mill
2012 6mill
2013 7.5mill
2014 9mill

derick dockery
2009 3.2mill
2010 2.91mill
2011 3.815mill
2012 4.775mill
2013 5.735mill
2014 6.695mill

albert haynesworth
2009 6mill
2010 3.6mill
2011 5.4mill
2012 6.7mill
2013 8.5mill
2014 10.3mill

[dmek25]

that guy, welcome back. seems like you disappeared for a while

[MTK]

3/6/09 update

[Schneed10]

One thing I will say, which was Big Haired Aristocrat's concern from before, is that it would suck hard if the Redskins cleared all this cap space and it turns out they don't use it.

They'll definitely use some of it. Be it for Elton Brown, Khary Campbell, Pete Kendall, Phillip Daniels, etc. But I'd hate to see us with enough extra space leftover to have carried a Marcus Washington or Shawn Springs. Hopefully the Redskins have something up their sleeves, I'm just waiting to see a player come visit who would actually be worth a good chunk of change.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

One thing I will say, which was Big Haired Aristocrat's concern from before, is that it would suck hard if the Redskins cleared all this cap space and it turns out they don't use it.

They'll definitely use some of it. Be it for Elton Brown, Khary Campbell, Pete Kendall, Phillip Daniels, etc. But I'd hate to see us with enough extra space leftover to have carried a Marcus Washington or Shawn Springs. Hopefully the Redskins have something up their sleeves, I'm just waiting to see a player come visit who would actually be worth a good chunk of change.

I still agree w/ our cuts re Marcus, Springs, and Taylor (although I wish we'd have done all sooner so we might not have missed out on other FA opportunities); however, I would love to see Marcus re-sign for a reasonable amount and play WLB for us. Probably not happening though.