Brees named AP offensive player of year

[Paintrain]

Interesting comment on Sportscenter about this-How does Peyton Manning win the MVP but not offensive player of the year?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Interesting comment on Sportscenter about this-How does Peyton Manning win the MVP but not offensive player of the year?

Well, Manning led a team with an average defense and no running game on a 9 game winning streak, despite coming off pretty serious knee surgery that kept him out of training camp and had him hobbled the first few weeks of the regular season.

But Manning's stats don't really measure up with Brees this year. Brees was like 15 yards away from breaking the single season passing record. He torches everyone. I think if the Saints hadn't finished last in their division and made the playoffs, Brees would have been MVP.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Well, Manning led a team with an average defense and no running game on a 9 game winning streak, despite coming off pretty serious knee surgery that kept him out of training camp and had him hobbled the first few weeks of the regular season.

But Manning's stats don't really measure up with Brees this year. Brees was like 15 yards away from breaking the single season passing record. He torches everyone. I think if the Saints hadn't finished last in their division and made the playoffs, Brees would have been MVP.

Brees was also intercepted on the road with a Favre-ian kind of efficiency, so I think Manning was more valuable by virtue of that.

Manning might have been better per attempt as well, though I really don't want to look it up right now. Any QB who throws as many times as Brees did with put up an obscene amount of yards...given though, that 5,000 yards is far beyond obscene.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Interesting comment on Sportscenter about this-How does Peyton Manning win the MVP but not offensive player of the year?

The definitions of the two awards are different. Offensive Player of the Year is given based almost solely on statistics. Under that logic, Brees and his 5000 yard season definitely gets the nod.

The definition of MVP is debatable, but most voters tend to weigh heavily on the importance of the player to his team. So it's a different thought process.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

The definitions of the two awards are different. Offensive Player of the Year is given based almost solely on statistics. Under that logic, Brees and his 5000 yard season definitely gets the nod.

The definition of MVP is debatable, but most voters tend to weigh heavily on the importance of the player to his team. So it's a different thought process.

i agree, but it is turning into a joke. what would the skins record be without Clinton Portis? or London Fletcher? the saints are probably a 4 win team without Brees

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i agree, but it is turning into a joke. what would the skins record be without Clinton Portis? or London Fletcher? the saints are probably a 4 win team without Brees

I don't think we have had any one player with impressive stats to be either defensive or offensive player of the year. Brees had the stats and won offensive player of the year. Manning singlehandedly carried his team to a good record and the playoffs, so he's the most valuable player in a team that made the playoffs.

I don't see how any of these awards are turning into a joke. Now Pro Bowl selections, those are jokes.