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[over the mountain]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I don't necessarily disagree, but Springs sure does sound like a player that doesn't give a sh*t.

theres alot of that going around ashburn lately, the storm has been brewing for a few years now IMO. id say its a product of the players thinking they as a collective group have the talent to win the coaches just cant seem to get it right from spurrier to gibbs to zorn. if 3 different coaches couldnt get it right im startin to think the problem may lie with the players, they're not as good as they think they are.

i really dont know but this mentality is not condusive to winning.

go skins!!

[BigHairedAristocrat]

** I updated my original post with Springs' thoughts on Santana Moss, Jason Campbell, and the the rookies.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

theres alot of that going around ashburn lately, the storm has been brewing for a few years now IMO. id say its a product of the players thinking they as a collective group have the talent to win the coaches just cant seem to get it right from spurrier to gibbs to zorn. if 3 different coaches couldnt get it right im startin to think the problem may lie with the players, they're not as good as they think they are.

i really dont know but this mentality is not condusive to winning.

go skins!!

No good coaches want to come here because they know they won't get to deal their own fate.

Spagnulo came here and didn't want any part when he realized the structure of the front office. He tried to respectfully decline but the Skins FO bashed him so it didn't seem like they were inept...kinda like breaking up with your girlfriend before she breaks up with you...very childish.

The front office structure has to change before players start to believe this organization can win. Otherwise you'll get players playing for a payday and nothing more.

[70Chip]

Springs is just angling to maximize his income. All his talk is based on that. He's trying to put the Skins on the spot and he's actually pretty good at it. By claiming that all the CBs are unhappy, he makes himself more valuable. I don't think there will be any mass defection and because of that, I don't think any one of them is indispensable.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by over the mountain

theres alot of that going around ashburn lately, the storm has been brewing for a few years now IMO. id say its a product of the players thinking they as a collective group have the talent to win the coaches just cant seem to get it right from spurrier to gibbs to zorn. if 3 different coaches couldnt get it right im startin to think the problem may lie with the players, they're not as good as they think they are.

i really dont know but this mentality is not condusive to winning.

go skins!!

We only have 2-3 players on the roster now who were on the roster when Spurrier was here. Its not the players themselves - its the decisions made and environment fostered by the front office.