Questions that might effect the DRAFT

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Where exactly are you hearing this about Mays?

Er, the part about Mays grading out or him possibly staying at SC? The grading out part is just my conjecture lol. Him possibly staying is from a few inside sources on the SC forum (usually very credible)... but I think he's now seeing the possibility that his stock may just rise even more during the combine. Plus, he got one of those NFL draft evaluations so I'm thinking he knows what's up.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

Er, the part about Mays grading out or him possibly staying at SC? The grading out part is just my conjecture lol. Him possibly staying is from a few inside sources on the SC forum (usually very credible)... but I think he's now seeing the possibility that his stock may just rise even more during the combine. Plus, he got one of those NFL draft evaluations so I'm thinking he knows what's up.

How he grades out, because I got to tell ya what I've heard is that a lot of front office personnel and scouts aren't as high on him, later in the first round possibly early second is what they're thinking.

Would like to get your thoughts on Moala though.

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

How he grades out, because I got to tell ya what I've heard is that a lot of front office personnel and scouts aren't as high on him, later in the first round possibly early second is what they're thinking.

Would like to get your thoughts on Moala though.

Really? Wow... do you have any specific stuff they're saying about him? Just about of us SC guys think he's the absolute truth. Physically, he's just about as superior as you can get and his coverage has gotten better each year. I think the one knock I could see is that he really truly hasn't been tested on an island yet- there was so much talent in our secondary this season, it seemed he had backup wherever he went (thus able to blast people up without fear of whiffing). I'm truly curious as to why scouts aren't too keen on him.

Moala is the enigma. I remember some people had him as a top pick before last season started, but he was inconsistent throughout the year. He's not too quick upfield, but he's really good in run defense (can handle the double-teams fairly well). Out of the last few DT entries from SC, he definitely doesn't have the potential of Ellis or Patterson. He needs to improve his technique, but I think playing in our defense has him ready play at the next level.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

Really? Wow... do you have any specific stuff they're saying about him? Just about of us SC guys think he's the absolute truth. Physically, he's just about as superior as you can get and his coverage has gotten better each year. I think the one knock I could see is that he really truly hasn't been tested on an island yet- there was so much talent in our secondary this season, it seemed he had backup wherever he went (thus able to blast people up without fear of whiffing). I'm truly curious as to why scouts aren't too keen on him.

Moala is the enigma. I remember some people had him as a top pick before last season started, but he was inconsistent throughout the year. He's not too quick upfield, but he's really good in run defense (can handle the double-teams fairly well). Out of the last few DT entries from SC, he definitely doesn't have the potential of Ellis or Patterson. He needs to improve his technique, but I think playing in our defense has him ready play at the next level.

Got a little more specifics, biggest concern is for every big play he makes, there are three or four smaller plays or assignments that he misses and those add up.

But that's not to say he can't or won't go high, these guys could be wrong. This is a select few people out of many. They say things based on a combination of where they think someone should go and where they think he will, and sometimes (most times) they're pretty accurate. Other times they can be way off

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

Really? Wow... do you have any specific stuff they're saying about him? Just about of us SC guys think he's the absolute truth. Physically, he's just about as superior as you can get and his coverage has gotten better each year. I think the one knock I could see is that he really truly hasn't been tested on an island yet- there was so much talent in our secondary this season, it seemed he had backup wherever he went (thus able to blast people up without fear of whiffing). I'm truly curious as to why scouts aren't too keen on him.

Moala is the enigma. I remember some people had him as a top pick before last season started, but he was inconsistent throughout the year. He's not too quick upfield, but he's really good in run defense (can handle the double-teams fairly well). Out of the last few DT entries from SC, he definitely doesn't have the potential of Ellis or Patterson. He needs to improve his technique, but I think playing in our defense has him ready play at the next level.

Because I like you I spoke to one of their teammate's today to get some more scouting:

Maualuga: Should be a top 5 pick, most complete player he's ever played with.

Cushing: Somewhat overlooked playing along side Maualuga, not as football smart as you'd like. Gets by on physical skills too much, may not translate to the NFL right away

Moala: Absolute beast, manhandles opponents, deceptively quick. Smart too. Needs to tighten up on some of the fundamentals though

Matthews: Overachiever, hasn't really found a position he excels at. Jack off all trades, master of none type

Mays: (direct quote) "Eh, he's good I guess. But he's nothing special" Makes too many mistakes, inconsistent, average practice player, and lots of off-field issues (didn't say what)

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Because I like you I spoke to one of their teammate's today to get some more scouting:

Maualuga: Should be a top 5 pick, most complete player he's ever played with.

Cushing: Somewhat overlooked playing along side Maualuga, not as football smart as you'd like. Gets by on physical skills too much, may not translate to the NFL right away

Moala: Absolute beast, manhandles opponents, deceptively quick. Smart too. Needs to tighten up on some of the fundamentals though

Matthews: Overachiever, hasn't really found a position he excels at. Jack off all trades, master of none type

Mays: (direct quote) "Eh, he's good I guess. But he's nothing special" Makes too many mistakes, inconsistent, average practice player, and lots of off-field issues (didn't say what)

Dude.. thanks for the scoops, brotha! Everybody's been hyped on Rey Rey, but I didn't really believe until this season- he was extremely prone to overshooting his assignments his first few seasons and leaving his zones. He's finally been able to shore that aspect of his game up, so now he's not just a headhunter.

I've actually read some reviews comparing Mays to Roy Williams, so I hope that doesn't come true.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by itvnetop

Dude.. thanks for the scoops, brotha! Everybody's been hyped on Rey Rey, but I didn't really believe until this season- he was extremely prone to overshooting his assignments his first few seasons and leaving his zones. He's finally been able to shore that aspect of his game up, so now he's not just a headhunter.

I've actually read some reviews comparing Mays to Roy Williams, so I hope that doesn't come true.

Well, regardless, your love affair with Taylor Mays will have to wait at least one more year. Pete Carroll said earlier today that Taylor Mays, Josh Pinkard, and CJ Gable are all returning to school next year. Good news for Trojans fans.

Mays returning to USC for another season - College football- nbcsports.msnbc.com

[itvnetop]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Well, regardless, your love affair with Taylor Mays will have to wait at least one more year. Pete Carroll said earlier today that Taylor Mays, Josh Pinkard, and CJ Gable are all returning to school next year. Good news for Trojans fans.

Mays returning to USC for another season - College football- nbcsports.msnbc.com

That's awesome news... our defense should still be pretty top notch.

"Love affair?" If I have a love affair with Mays, you have a mancrush on Percy Harvin. I really hope we can't meet you guys next season to settle it on the field. Screw the BCS.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Because I like you I spoke to one of their teammate's today to get some more scouting:

Maualuga: Should be a top 5 pick, most complete player he's ever played with.

Cushing: Somewhat overlooked playing along side Maualuga, not as football smart as you'd like. Gets by on physical skills too much, may not translate to the NFL right away

Moala: Absolute beast, manhandles opponents, deceptively quick. Smart too. Needs to tighten up on some of the fundamentals though

Matthews: Overachiever, hasn't really found a position he excels at. Jack off all trades, master of none type

Mays: (direct quote) "Eh, he's good I guess. But he's nothing special" Makes too many mistakes, inconsistent, average practice player, and lots of off-field issues (didn't say what)

If you hear anything about Kaluka Maiava could you pass it along?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 30gut

If you hear anything about Kaluka Maiava could you pass it along?

Will do