The Real Problem of the Redskins ...

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Handling contract negotiations is just one piece of the GM puzzle. He's always been clear that was his deal. So we can't say he hasn't been up front about his role in that regard.

This is just a general thought and not directed at you specifically: So if he was more involved as people like to speculate, why wouldn't he own up to that as well? If he has this massive ego as people say, it seems to me he would want everyone to know who's in charge a la Jones in Dallas.

I don't know if a 'massive ego' was ever the problem with Snyder. This is a guy who has been known to avoid the media, rarely give interviews, and be amongst the most highly secretive in the business.

As to his current involvement of the day to day operations of the football team, Vinny Cerrato, on his very own radio show, said that he is contact with Dan Snyder, "many, many, many times throughout the day." I would submit that this is the kind of frequency that is not seen between most general managers and owners.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beemnseven

I don't know if a 'massive ego' was ever the problem with Snyder. This is a guy who has been known to avoid the media, rarely give interviews, and be amongst the most highly secretive in the business.

As to his current involvement of the day to day operations of the football team, Vinny Cerrato, on his very own radio show, said that he is contact with Dan Snyder, "many, many, many times throughout the day." I would submit that this is the kind of frequency that is not seen between most general managers and owners.

I'm sure the level of involvement of owners around the league varies greatly. But considering that Snyder and Vinny have more than just a business relationship and are friends, that probably explains the constant contact.

And again, nobody is denying that Snyder is involved. It's the level of involvement that is highly debatable.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I'm sure the level of involvement of owners around the league varies greatly. But considering that Snyder and Vinny have more than just a business relationship and are friends, that probably explains the constant contact.

And again, nobody is denying that Snyder is involved. It's the level of involvement that is highly debatable.

This is not directed at you, it is more of just a general point.

People who choose to defend Vinny and Danny always want to turn the discussion into a 'level of involvement' and 'we can not tell who made this move or that move. We really cannot tell who is in charge so we can not blame Vinny and Danny.'
But yet we can see by the teams performance on the field in 2008 that this team's FO did not do a "great job".
We have not been a consistent winner under Snyder's ownership. Bottom line that is the measure of the FO. Our FO has not performed well regardless of who is to blame.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

This is not directed at you, it is more of just a general point.

People who choose to defend Vinny and Danny always want to turn the discussion into a 'level of involvement' and 'we can not tell who made this move or that move. We really cannot tell who is in charge so we can not blame Vinny and Danny.'
But yet we can see by the teams performance on the field in 2008 that this team's FO did not do a "great job".
We have not been a consistent winner under Snyder's ownership. Bottom line that is the measure of the FO. Our FO has not performed well regardless of who is to blame.

I agree. The strange thing is that Skins fans view DS or VC in charge instead of Zorn. In every other NFL city I have lived in the coach is the one who is in charge and the owner/GM are these guys in the background that are rarely ever in the news. When the Skins finally allow the coach to be the one in charge the organizatiion will be better off.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by irish

I agree. The strange thing is that Skins fans view DS or VC in charge instead of Zorn. In every other NFL city I have lived in the coach is the one who is in charge and the owner/GM are these guys in the background that are rarely ever in the news. When the Skins finally allow the coach to be the one in charge the organizatiion will be better off.

At some point someone in this organization needs to stand up and say the buck stops here. There is no leader. The Dolphins are run by Parcells. We are run by committee?

The only constant in this originzation since Snyder took over as owner is:
1) Vinny and Danny at or near the top except for one year.
2) We have not been a consistent performing team.