2009 needs

[markymark]

i'm definitely not saying get rid of moss but he does need help. he needs someone else to take pressure off him on first and second down. cooley is great but again hes getting doubled up too. another legit wr would help us the most and allow ARE to move to the 3rd wr which would make him really dangerous. but you all are right lines have to be priority which we could build though the draft. our line is not as great as others but its also not that bad. if we could get guys to come in over the next 3 years we'd be fine. draft a guard and center this year that we could start if needed but dont need to start and help them develop. but what about the lb situation? any thoughts out there?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by markymark

i'm definitely not saying get rid of moss but he does need help. he needs someone else to take pressure off him on first and second down. cooley is great but again hes getting doubled up too. another legit wr would help us the most and allow ARE to move to the 3rd wr which would make him really dangerous. but you all are right lines have to be priority which we could build though the draft. our line is not as great as others but its also not that bad. if we could get guys to come in over the next 3 years we'd be fine. draft a guard and center this year that we could start if needed but dont need to start and help them develop. but what about the lb situation? any thoughts out there?

If getting rid of Moss means a pick or picks that are going to help us address the offensive line, I think it is worth it. What's the point to having a good receiver, if your QB doesn't have time to throw it nor does it have a good running game to set up the pass. We could have Randy Moss and our passing game still would suffer (sadly lots of fans - including yours truly and the FO did not think of this and brought in three receivers).

[GoSkins!]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

If getting rid of Moss means a pick or picks that are going to help us address the offensive line, I think it is worth it. What's the point to having a good receiver, if your QB doesn't have time to throw it nor does it have a good running game to set up the pass. We could have Randy Moss and our passing game still would suffer (sadly lots of fans - including yours truly and the FO did not think of this and brought in three receivers).

I have thought about it and just can't see giving up Moss for a second rounder. I understand why people think so, but if he is made the second reciever, he can also become the full time punt returner. He could be a true game changer there. Packaging Randle El and Betts for a pick/trade could be a better option.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

If getting rid of Moss means a pick or picks that are going to help us address the offensive line, I think it is worth it. What's the point to having a good receiver, if your QB doesn't have time to throw it nor does it have a good running game to set up the pass. We could have Randy Moss and our passing game still would suffer (sadly lots of fans - including yours truly and the FO did not think of this and brought in three receivers).

At this point we have an age issue along with depth at every position. The lines are old and failing, our defensive backfield is oft banged up, our wideouts unproductive. On top of that we might really need to consider drafting a QB in 2010 if JC is given the boot, a distinct possibility if we don't do anything next season. If we could get multiple picks for Moss I agree with you that we should do it, but I am not sure we will get too many offers for an undersized WR, that will warrant such a move. I don't see anyone giving us quality mutliple picks for a guy that might be past his prime. The acquisition of Jason Taylor was in hindsight a stupid move. We desperately needed those two picks.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

At this point we have an age issue along with depth at every position. The lines are old and failing, our defensive backfield is oft banged up, our wideouts unproductive. On top of that we might really need to consider drafting a QB in 2010 if JC is given the boot, a distinct possibility if we don't do anything next season. If we could get multiple picks for Moss I agree with you that we should do it, but I am not sure we will get too many offers for an undersized WR, that will warrant such a move. I don't see anyone giving us quality mutliple picks for a guy that might be past his prime. The acquisition of Jason Taylor was in hindsight a stupid move. We desperately needed those two picks.

Honestly, even if we get a 2nd round pick for Moss, we could trade down our first round pick to a lower 1st round and a 3rd or 4th round pick. This would give us more picks to bring in youth to the team.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Honestly, even if we get a 2nd round pick for Moss, we could trade down our first round pick to a lower 1st round and a 3rd or 4th round pick. This would give us more picks to bring in youth to the team.

That makes some good logical sense.

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