The Real Problem of the Redskins ...

[irish]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Just my opinion, but Cowher is VERY close to Schottenhiemer, mentor-type relationship. Nuff said there.

For Holmgren to come, Snyder would have to have just fired Zorn. That's pretty cold, to take over a team your boy just got fired from.

Shanahan has the name, the resume, the status, the repiutation, the ego and the greed to be a perfect fit.

There is an interesting piece in Sports Illustrated about how the smart choice in NFL coaching does not seem to the recycled "name' coach anymore. Looking at the successful playoff teams they are new breed coaches not retreads that have come out of retirement. I think canning Zorn and hiring a retread like Shannahan or Holmgren would be a mistake and current history seems to bear this out.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by irish

There is an interesting piece in Sports Illustrated about how the smart choice in NFL coaching does not seem to the recycled "name' coach anymore. Looking at the successful playoff teams they are new breed coaches not retreads that have come out of retirement. I think canning Zorn and hiring a retread like Shannahan or Holmgren would be a mistake and current history seems to bear this out.

The problem with that is your really basing that off one year in the NFL and not the trend over a giving number of years. Just look at the last several SB winners Giants, Colts, Steelers, Pats, Pats, Tampa and the newest coach among them is Gruden. So history does not support your theory. It could also be siad that the Steelers coach (forgot his name) is playing with players he inherited from Cowher so its kind of hard to judge if he will be the next best coach in the NFL.

[irish]

Originally Posted by firstdown

The problem with that is your really basing that off one year in the NFL and not the trend over a giving number of years. Just look at the last several SB winners Giants, Colts, Steelers, Pats, Pats, Tampa and the newest coach among them is Gruden. So history does not support your theory. It could also be siad that the Steelers coach (forgot his name) is playing with players he inherited from Cowher so its kind of hard to judge if he will be the next best coach in the NFL.

Its not my theory its what the author of the article said. Its an interesting article.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by irish

There is an interesting piece in Sports Illustrated about how the smart choice in NFL coaching does not seem to the recycled "name' coach anymore. Looking at the successful playoff teams they are new breed coaches not retreads that have come out of retirement. I think canning Zorn and hiring a retread like Shannahan or Holmgren would be a mistake and current history seems to bear this out.

In most cases I may agree with you, but in the Redskins (really Snyder) case, there would need to be a larger than life presence for Snyder to really back off and cede all power to a 'football guy'. I just can't see him bringing in a regular GM and a regular coach and letting them revamp our football ops.

Kinda like with Gibbs-I'll give you all control out of deference and awe but when it came to last offseason he didn't entertain anyone outside the organization for a GM but was willing (reportedly) to give full power to Carroll or Cowher.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

In most cases I may agree with you, but in the Redskins (really Snyder) case, there would need to be a larger than life presence for Snyder to really back off and cede all power to a 'football guy'. I just can't see him bringing in a regular GM and a regular coach and letting them revamp our football ops.

Kinda like with Gibbs-I'll give you all control out of deference and awe but when it came to last offseason he didn't entertain anyone outside the organization for a GM but was willing (reportedly) to give full power to Carroll or Cowher.

That's the reason why the Skins wont be successful with DS in charge. He wont let the football guys do their thing.

[PennSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by irish

That's the reason why the Skins wont be successful with DS in charge. He wont let the football guys do their thing.

Errrr. We have to get 'football guys' first! I don't qualify Vinny for that!

[irish]

Originally Posted by PennSkinsFan

Errrr. We have to get 'football guys' first! I don't qualify Vinny for that!

Errrr. If you look at the post I was responding to you'd understand why my response was worded the way it was. But I do agree that the Skins dont have any football guys in positions that matter in the FO.