Zorn seeing the same things we do

[BaltimoreSkins]

A young quality o-line will only take a few years to build. The Ravens did it in two years without using a a first round draft pick to do so.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by BaltimoreSkins

A young quality o-line will only take a few years to build. The Ravens did it in two years without using a a first round draft pick to do so.

If Rinehart is any indication of the FO's talent at drafting trench talent... we're gonna need to use 1st round picks on o-lineman.

[The Goat]

I'm just saying what is the harm calling the spade a spade and making the clear statement "Our offensive line has to perform at a significantly higher level to do the things we want to do as a team. We need to protect Jason long enough to find the open receiver, we need to make blocks downfield to help our running backs."

For a HC who has prided himself on openness his actual statement just doesn't sit well w/ me at all. There's no harm in calling attention to what we need to do.

[GusFrerotte]

Yeah my poor Bro in law is a diehard Lions fan for godsakes!!!! He won't leave em and they are lucky to win 4 games!!!!! But I do sympathize with you, it is getting very tiresome, and that is in a way why when I finally decided to join the site in 2007 I used Gus Frerotte as my ID. It is getting sort of bad when you can look at the Turner era with some nastalgia. Give me a younger Jim Lachey, Jeff Uhlenhake, etc over some of these guys we have now on our line. I know I am going to get ripped a new a@#()*& for saying this, but I miss Gus Frerotte in his prime throwing to Westbrook and Shephard, etc. But a true fan just goes with the flow. We have more SBs under our belt than most franchises probably ever will. THe winning will come again sometime soon I hope, just not sure it is going to be with the current setup though.

[The Goat]

To Skinzzfan and GF, the positivity is much appreciated. Another Skins fan once told me he thought we were the best team w/ a losing record (at the time). Well, I'd say objectively we're the best 8-8 team on the year so that's something.

(yeah I know SD was 8-8... I think we're the better team)

[The Goat]

Sweet

[44ever]

I didn't read anything that indicated the same old. To me it looked like they were seeing the need to build the O line. Address the pass rush. And improve relationships and leadership roles. Did we expect Zorn to say "our Offense sucks but were working on it?" no but he did say build it which to me means changes to the O line. Including depth in that area.

No sense in freaking out now after what we've been through the last decade. We finally seem to have direction. I could be wrong.

What's with the Willy Wonka????

[Yellow31]

Everybody calm down. You guys really think the skins are going to state the obvious and say that they need to draft linemen? Come on if they say it and EVERY other team knows what they are going to do, that limits there trade options. On draft day the only team that knows what is going to happen is the one with the first pick and past the first pick the rest is a crap shoot. Not one team really says what or who they want, which would handicap themselves in the draft. Couple more months and we will all know.....

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Considering we needed linemen last year and instead got two receivers and a tight end, i think other teams won't be surprised by ANYTHING we do this year. Personally, i wouldnt be surprised at all if we drafted a receiver, cornerback, safety, running back, or even quarterback with our 1st pick. Nothing this team does surprises me anymore.

[hooskins]

Seriously dirtbag, you sound like my younger brother who likes winning and when he loses a game he just quits in the middle and never touches it again. That isn't what life is about dude, can't just run away when the going gets tough.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Seriously dirtbag, you sound like my younger brother who likes winning and when he loses a game he just quits in the middle and never touches it again. That isn't what life is about dude, can't just run away when the going gets tough.

No one likes loosing, however what I can't stand is incompetent management. My post was more about that then anything, a lot of the other guys saw that to. Like I said before, even though I have considered it, the fact remains that the rant is more likely an expression of frustration. Ironically rooting for a sports team is a lot like being attracted to someone, it's not really much of a choice, rather it just is. I'm way past the point where I'm a Redskin fan because I choose to be, it's just something I am, so even if I tried I doubt I could do it. In fact technically speaking my best chance was when the Ravens won the Super Bowl as I had started not only rooting for them before mid-season, but also because I had started paying attention to the Redskins again in 1999 when I started playing High School Football. The mid-90's were more of a baseball/video games time for me.

However I also examined, through me, how we the fans might be part of the problem. As a thread pointed out recently the Washington Redskins are the third most valuable sports franchise in the world, despite being run like a circus, save Gibbs 2.0. We keep buying tickets, merchandise, parking spots, etc. As a result we leave a stubborn owner with the justification he needs to run the franchise with his best friend at GM, and a head coach that's less likely to stand up to him. If more people were willing to at least turn their back to the team then maybe we'd stand a chance of not having to put up with the deconstruction of this once proud franchise.

Though it is kind of ironic considering that if the Colts hadn't moved I would more likely then not be a Baltimore Colts fan.

Also before I forget, for anyone else who may want to "come after me" (I quote this because it's been pretty civil for the most part) for my first post your free to say whats on your mind. I said what I said and it came from the heart. My only request is that you at least read the entire thread rather then reading that one post hitting the quote button and telling me what a bad fan I am.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

No one likes loosing, however what I can't stand is incompetent management. My post was more about that then anything, a lot of the other guys saw that to. Like I said before, even though I have considered it, the fact remains that the rant is more likely an expression of frustration. Ironically rooting for a sports team is a lot like being attracted to someone, it's not really much of a choice, rather it just is. I'm way past the point where I'm a Redskin fan because I choose to be, it's just something I am, so even if I tried I doubt I could do it. In fact technically speaking my best chance was when the Ravens won the Super Bowl as I had started not only rooting for them before mid-season, but also because I had started paying attention to the Redskins again in 1999 when I started playing High School Football. The mid-90's were more of a baseball/video games time for me.

However I also examined, through me, how we the fans might be part of the problem. As a thread pointed out recently the Washington Redskins are the third most valuable sports franchise in the world, despite being run like a circus, save Gibbs 2.0. We keep buying tickets, merchandise, parking spots, etc. As a result we leave a stubborn owner with the justification he needs to run the franchise with his best friend at GM, and a head coach that's less likely to stand up to him. If more people were willing to at least turn their back to the team then maybe we'd stand a chance of not having to put up with the deconstruction of this once proud franchise.

Though it is kind of ironic considering that if the Colts hadn't moved I would more likely then not be a Baltimore Colts fan.

Also before I forget, for anyone else who may want to "come after me" (I quote this because it's been pretty civil for the most part) for my first post your free to say whats on your mind. I said what I said and it came from the heart. My only request is that you at least read the entire thread rather then reading that one post hitting the quote button and telling me what a bad fan I am.

I think it's probably best if you stepped back and looked across the NFL and you'll find several teams that have many of the same "issues", structure, and philosophies as the Redskins. We tend to think we're the absolute worst because we dedicate so much of our time each day to discussing it. But the number of teams like the Redskins is much higher than the number of teams not like the Redskins.

[FRPLG]

I say good riddance to those who jump bandwagons for any reason. Not real fans in my opinion.

[MTK]

I've never understood people that switch teams. I had a friend when I was kid and at the time we were both big Celtics fans. All of a sudden one day he said he was switching to the Lakers. We all gave him a ton of shit for it.

If you want to switch fine, go ahead. Don't let the door hit ya.

[SkinzzFan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I've never understood people that switch teams. I had a friend when I was kid and at the time we were both big Celtics fans. All of a sudden one day he said he was switching to the Lakers. We all gave him a ton of shit for it.

If you want to switch fine, go ahead. Don't let the door hit ya.

Amen to that. I also can't stand when guys say "my second favorite team is (fill in the blank)"...WTF is that? You can't have a "fall back" team. You fully devote yourself to your team or you're not a true fan, period. I admit, I cheer for two teams each week, the Redskins and the Cowboys opponent but that's for obvious reasons.

Sorry, I just feel strongly about being a fan of 1 team for the long haul, rain or shine!

HAIL!!