RI: What Moves Will Offseason Bring?

[celts32]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

One of the positives of the recession!

Seriously though, I think JLC is fairly accurate here. I think maybe one or two sort of big-name free agents, a couple of back-up types, and then just try to trade for maybe an additional two or three picks

Smoot...have you heard any rumors in your circles about the skins actually dangling Carlos in a trade? JLC keeps floating this but he seems to be the only one at this point.

It makes absolutely no sense to me...it would turn the strength of our defense into a possible weakness. Even if we sign Hall then who would start opposite him? Springs can't be counted on for 16 games even if he is on the team. Smoot is a #3 at best and Tryon is not even an NFL caliber player at this point. IMO they need to be trying to resign Carlos not trade him.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by celts32

Smoot...have you heard any rumors in your circles about the skins actually dangling Carlos in a trade? JLC keeps floating this but he seems to be the only one at this point.

It makes absolutely no sense to me...it would turn the strength of our defense into a possible weakness. Even if we sign Hall then who would start opposite him? Springs can't be counted on for 16 games even if he is on the team. Smoot is a #3 at best and Tryon is not even an NFL caliber player at this point. IMO they need to be trying to resign Carlos not trade him.

A little bit, though not much. I mean I've heard that they're open to the idea and that he has value as trade bait that they don't really have with many other players. Players that they'd be willing to trade that is. I think that the other issue is that Rogers is apparently preparing to ask for huge, huge money and the team isn't ready to make such a commitment. I don't know what the numbers are but I think it's similar to a couple of years ago when I was telling you guys that Dockery was reportedly expected to ask for a $17 million signing bonus which we all thought was ridiculous and then...well you know the rest.

So yeah I think they're definitely discussing it and exploring the possibility but I don't know to what extent. I think the Moss discussions are actually a bit more serious.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by celts32

Smoot...have you heard any rumors in your circles about the skins actually dangling Carlos in a trade? JLC keeps floating this but he seems to be the only one at this point.

It makes absolutely no sense to me...it would turn the strength of our defense into a possible weakness. Even if we sign Hall then who would start opposite him? Springs can't be counted on for 16 games even if he is on the team. Smoot is a #3 at best and Tryon is not even an NFL caliber player at this point. IMO they need to be trying to resign Carlos not trade him.

I agree completley here...I thought Rogers was phenominal for us last year...and Hall has not been resigned...I still would be against this...although a secnod rounder would be nice.

[Bill B]

As far as the Skins worrying about Carlos asking for an insane contract as being a reason to trade him now - wouldn't the Skins be better off using either the franchise or transitional tag on him instead?

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

I agree completley here...I thought Rogers was phenominal for us last year...and Hall has not been resigned...I still would be against this...although a secnod rounder would be nice.

A 2nd rounder is not value at all for Rogers. We spent like the 9th pick on him and he played really well this year and is still young. This is the kind of player you build around not trade for a 2nd rounder.

I am all for trading Moss if he can bring anything good in return...he is starting to get older and we need to start making changes to that offensive core.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by celts32

A 2nd rounder is not value at all for Rogers. We spent like the 9th pick on him and he played really well this year and is still young. This is the kind of player you build around not trade for a 2nd rounder.

I am all for trading Moss if he can bring anything good in return...he is starting to get older and we need to start making changes to that offensive core.

I agree... anything less than a top 20 first round pick for Rogers and we are screwing ourselves over. Even if Rogers is disgruntled, he has no choice but to play for us. Lance Briggs was disgruntled, but he's not anymore and he's still with the bears now. Lito Shepard was disgruntled, but he's still with the eagles. The Redskins hold all the cards with Carlos for 2 more years if the CBA expires and 2-3more years if it doesnt and they want to franchise him 1-2years. Thats plenty of time to work things out and patch up any difference between them. We should NOT, under any circumstances, let him dicate things to us. He signed a contract and thats all there is to it.

As far as Moss goes, we should be able to get a 2nd for him and I wouldnt take anything less.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

www.dcexaminer.com >> Sports

This article says we're very interested in Jordan Gross. What I don't understand is it speculates that we would pay him LT money to play RT for us... that would be foolish. If we signed him and gave him LT money, we should put him at LT and move Samuels to RT... something we need to do soon anyways.

I don't necessarily think we should pursue Gross (he's 29 and will cost too much), but if we did, it certainly would help our team immensly right away. We could trade down in the first round, pick up a 2nd and then use our first three picks on a center, DL, and LB... all three guys should be able to start immediately.

And Imagine our O-line with Gross-Kendall/Thomas- Mack(draft pick)-Rinehart-Samuels... now THAT would be a beastly line.

[Skins4L]

Absolutely..
We need to make sure D Hall gets re-signed.

ALSO..WE CANT TRADE SANTANA MOSS or CARLOS ROGERS.

Santana Moss might be getting older.. but his skills or speed havent diminished. I wouldnt trade Moss for ANY DRAFT PICK.

And i dont know if its the year to completely fall out of Free Agency. We could use somebody out there, i mean.. not all of our Free Agent pickups were a bust.