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Old 12-02-2004, 05:42 PM   #1
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i say we make coles hit the IR now and start his surgery that is needed badly. the more time to heal the better. second we need to sign smoot very soon to make sure there isnt a chance of hitting the FA market. then we need to boot samuels, sorry, it has to be done. countless times he has f'd up this year on plays he needs to use his own common sense. then the draft... round 1: we need a speed rusher from the outside, guy from BC would be perfect. round 2: we need to look for a great left tackle and get him started right away. THERE WILL BE 2 TO 3 LT's THAT ARE VERY GOOD IN THE SEC0ND ROUND. round 3: we need a speedster WR and should be able to find one in the third,,, hell, coles was drafted in the third. then from round 4 on, we need to fill in holes from departed roll players and make the rooks learn from well known guys we have all over the field.
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Old 12-03-2004, 08:23 AM   #2
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i say we make coles hit the IR now and start his surgery that is needed badly. the more time to heal the better.
And you are a doctor that has seen the MRI? Let him start seeing the proffesionals to gain a opion on his foot, but please do not insult us by making a diagnosis when you do not have any medical basis for it.
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Old 12-03-2004, 08:31 AM   #3
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And you are a doctor that has seen the MRI? Let him start seeing the proffesionals to gain a opion on his foot, but please do not insult us by making a diagnosis when you do not have any medical basis for it.
Apparently we have a lot of doctors in the house because I've seen plenty of people say he needs surgery.

He's supposed to see some specialists after the season and go from there. I think the problem is it's not some routine injury that he can go under the knife for, rehab and be back to 100% in 4-6 months. If it was that easy he would have done it last offseason.
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Old 12-03-2004, 10:43 AM   #4
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Apparently we have a lot of doctors in the house because I've seen plenty of people say he needs surgery.

He's supposed to see some specialists after the season and go from there. I think the problem is it's not some routine injury that he can go under the knife for, rehab and be back to 100% in 4-6 months. If it was that easy he would have done it last offseason.
I may be wrong, but I think they reccommended surgery last year for him, but he opted to try to rest it and see if that improved it. He didn't want to miss the additional mini-camps with the new staff.
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Old 12-03-2004, 11:40 AM   #5
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I may be wrong, but I think they reccommended surgery last year for him, but he opted to try to rest it and see if that improved it. He didn't want to miss the additional mini-camps with the new staff.
This is from an article in the Times this past summer

http://www.washtimes.com/sports/2004...1326-8518r.htm

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That said, it was another reminder that Coles' injury could be a lingering issue for the entire season. He chose not to have surgery during the offseason because doctors told him there was a chance it could end his career.
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Old 12-03-2004, 08:31 PM   #6
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Someone suggested we put Coles on IR and make him get the surgery that may or may not fix his foot. Here's my question - and it has nothing whatever to do with the diagnosis:

How do you force someone to have surgery? Do you threaten to cut him? What do you do if he says, "So cut me. I'll get the surgery after you cut me and then get another fat signing bonus somewhere else. Take you threats and stick them up your butt."

Do you kidnap him and drug him and smuggle him into the OR with your surgeons waiting there to take over?


Someone else said that we should trade Samuels for a veteran back-up QB. No need to trade him for anything. Veteran back-up QBs are ALWAYS available at no price other than a minimum contract in the summertime. I cannot think of a team that would trade a veteran back-up QB for an offensive tackle who is going to cost about $10M in salary next year and who will be a free agent at the end of next year. Unless of course that veteran back-up is Jeff George from the Bears...
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Old 12-03-2004, 08:53 PM   #7
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How do you force someone to have surgery? Do you threaten to cut him? What do you do if he says, "So cut me. I'll get the surgery after you cut me and then get another fat signing bonus somewhere else. Take you threats and stick them up your butt."

Do you kidnap him and drug him and smuggle him into the OR with your surgeons waiting there to take over?

What team will give him a big fat signing bonus knowing that he needs the surgery...I think he won't get any good offers until after he has the surgery...So if he threatens, as you say, to do it after we cut him he's gonna lose out on an entire season becuase he won't be on a team. Then maybe once he is healed he would probably get picked up again.

If he is a true Redskin, he will do what is best for the Team. If he's too concerned with himself then he's not a Joe Gibbs kinda player. We've got plenty of other receivers who can step up and take over his spot. I for one don't want to see him go but we need a team full of "team players" rather than individuals if we are going to see any improvements in the next year or two. Otherwise how is next year or the year after going to be any different than any of the last twelve years..."Team" attitude and consistency of staff and players are two things we haven't seen in a long time and it's about time we do.
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