Saints Hire Gregg Williams for D-Coordinator Job

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

I don't know if Zorn is the answer for this team or not. I hope so, and would just like to see him given a fair chance. That's all.

Tell me about it. I am a die hard Redskins fan. I want Zorn to be the best HC the Redskins have ever had.
I also would have liked to have seen GW and Saunders given a fair chance as well when Gibbs left. They have very good football minds. There are several coaches that found the promise land on their second HC jobs like Tom Coughlin, Tony Dungy and Jon Gruden to name a few. GWilliams is not a bad coach.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Tell me about it. I am a die hard Redskins fan. I want Zorn to be the best HC the Redskins have ever had.
I also would have liked to have seen GW and Saunders given a fair chance as well when Gibbs left. They have very good football minds. There are several coaches that found the promise land on their second HC jobs like Tom Coughlin, Tony Dungy and Jon Gruden to name a few. GWilliams is not a bad coach.

The ones you mention didn't do too bad in their first HC jobs either. Coughlin with Jacksonville, Dungy with Tampa Bay and Gruden with Oakland. Not to continue the disagreement, but Williams didn't come close to what these others did in his first HC job.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

The ones you mention didn't do too bad in their first HC jobs either. Coughlin with Jacksonville, Dungy with Tampa Bay and Gruden with Oakland. Not to continue the disagreement, but Williams didn't come close to what these others did in his first HC job.

Even Bill Bellichick got fired by the Browns.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Even Bill Bellichick got fired by the Browns.

There is always an exception to the rule. But there is just as much a chance that Williams will never be a good HC as there is that he will. I'm not saying he never will be. I just don't follow those who seem so sure he will be. His record doesn't support it. Bellichick also led Cleveland to their last playoff win in 91. So he had some success there. Every coach that gets fired is not a bad coach. But I would say their records speak louder than if they were fired or not.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

Tell me about it. I am a die hard Redskins fan. I want Zorn to be the best HC the Redskins have ever had.
I also would have liked to have seen GW and Saunders given a fair chance as well when Gibbs left. They have very good football minds. There are several coaches that found the promise land on their second HC jobs like Tom Coughlin, Tony Dungy and Jon Gruden to name a few. GWilliams is not a bad coach.

Should've, could've, would've...it's all now water under the bridge. The way I see it with Zorn, he survived a brutal beginning of the season, but the offense fizzled out b/c of injuries and age in the second half...and the defense could not carry the team anymore. Zorn also inherited a team that has made some terrible offseason decisions regarding trades, free agency, and contracts in the past (and it is still feeling the effects). Right now, this is the team he inherited.

I'm sick of the Atlanta and Miami comparisons. Those teams have not made the bad decisions in the offseasons that we have had. They've had good offensive lines that protected their QB (both finish in the top team of least sacks allowed). And had an experienced coaching staff (coordinators and assistants) that I don't think the Redskins had. Atlanta (like Baltimore) won the lottery with their QB, and got a good free agent running back (another proof that their o-line was very good). Miami had some good veteran players (i.e. Ronnie Brown) and drafted very well (offensive and defensive lineman) last year; also they got lucky that Chad Pennington's arm didn't fall off.