Official Inauguration Day Thread

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by 4mrusmc

Hey Trample, I see that you are from Varina Va. I graduated from Henrico high school in 1988. So I think that you will have an appreciation for some of these interesting nuggets of info that I'm about to lay down.

You see, unlike some of these guys who think that they know about what diversity is. And preach about how we should all be more tolerant. I lived it growing up in a diverse neighborhood in the 1980's. I also have quite a few good friends that are dare I say, are of color.

I did not vote for our current president because of his complexion. I voted against him because I thought that his goals and aspirations to lead America were nowhere close to mine. And the suspect associations he had.

While working today at Highland Springs high school, I noticed that most of the staff and students at this 93% African-American school wore some kind of pro-Obama gear. And also, the school had on their projection screens, news coverage of the inauguration pretty much all during the school day.

I heard alot of things that disturbed me as I passed by these classrooms during my day of work there. I heard things like: "Hey y'all, our president is BLACK! Hey everybody, we got our n!@@a in the White House! There will be fried chicken in the White House tonite!" Or when Joe Biden kissed his sons at the inauguration, I heard a several people say "what is he gay or something?" These things were all said with administrators there in the classrooms, and nobody ever corrected these actions.

I thought to myself that this was a truly sad and pitiful way bring in change. And then you would hear the "Yes we can" chants in the hallways. And, I thought to myself again, yes we can what? Elect an African American for president?.?. We sure did. I just hope that these same people are truly willing to roll up there sleeve and be productive and responsible citizens that would be in keeping with the speeches that Obama gave today.

The world is watching now........

You Deserve the Navy Cross for teaching at Highland Springs.
I graduated from Varina in 96.
I really don't care about ole boy's race. If it had to be a black guy then I'd loved to get Doug Wilder in there to talk smack and fight Congress like he did City Council.
A local talk station had a test from the 1900s for a high school exit test form some mid-west state. I had a hard time with the questions.
To me they're dumbing the schools down. I barely graduated from Varina because it was the same old drivel year after year. How many times can you read Edgar Allen Poe or The Awakening? When I went to college I got strait As.
I didn't vote for any of them because of their views. Yeah McCain was a war hero but so was Grant and he didn't turn out to be such a great President.
My boys Ron Paul and Duncan Hunter got laughed off stage. I couldn't tell the difference between Obama or McCain really.
Is today a great day? I guess for Black people and Democrats. Yes I understand that it's a big thing for Black people. But MLK said we should judge a person by their character not by the color of their skin. I'm not one of these yuppy types who believes he needs to show the world we're not a racist country, if anything Germany and Japan do!
I just get frustrated, especially at work. They tried to pull that race card B.S. on me just because I didn't like Obama. Homie don't play that. They were all glued to tv today. They were so happy.
So be it. The man won fair and square. I'm just worried that everyone is so entralled with Keynesian Economics and that Obama's and Congress' answer to this economic downturn (and everything else) is to throw money at it. McCain is in the same camp IMO.
Here's a little insider knowledge from working in the banking industry. A lot of banks that didn't need or ask for TARP money were strong armed into taking it. I'll bet you a Silver Eagle that the money they say they can't account for went strait to Red China to pay off some debt so they wouldn't dump the T-Bills they're holding.

Was this a good day for the country? We'll have to wait and see. At least we'll have a President who can speak the language.

Highland Springs and J Sarg get a bad wrap. Y'all have some very good math teachers.

[70Chip]

I thought Obama gave a good speech. Good but not great. I think he is at a disadvantage because the press has built him up as a great orator and it is difficult to deliver greatness everytime. Of course as a conservative I am biased, but I thought the best bit was the part about outlasting those who would seek to destroy us and extending the open hand if they will unclinch the fist.

I was watching the little lunch they have for the new president in Statuary Hall and Tim Gietner(sp?) was pacing and talking on his cell phone. More good economic news no doubt. I wouldn't trade places with that guy for anything. Obama will be judged completely on the economy. Everything else is a sideshow.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

I thought Obama gave a good speech. Good but not great. I think he is at a disadvantage because the press has built him up as a great orator and it is difficult to deliver greatness everytime. Of course as a conservative I am biased, but I thought the best bit was the part about outlasting those who would seek to destroy us and extending the open hand if they will unclinch the fist.

I was watching the little lunch they have for the new president in Statuary Hall and Tim Gietner(sp?) was pacing and talking on his cell phone. More good economic news no doubt. I wouldn't trade places with that guy for anything. Obama will be judged completely on the economy. Everything else is a sideshow.

On the economy or fixing the economy? What if there is another terrorist attack? Whatever happens someone is always going to try to "cut off his nuts."

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by saden1

On the economy or fixing the economy? What if there is another terrorist attack? Whatever happens someone is always going to try to "cut off his nuts."

If he can turn this economy around, they will repeal the 22nd? Ammendment and he will be President for life.

In terms of terrorism, it's a question of scale. If they bomb an embassy and kill tens of people, it won't sidetrack his administration. He will do a more vocal version of Clinton. If there is a large scale attack in this country, then he has a two-headed monster to deal with (economy and national security). My take is that Al-Quada has been weakened to the point that they cannot mount a large scale attack. Most of the other groups are Sunni and Sunnis only attack if they get the go ahead from some authority like Khameni in Iran or Nasralah, the Hesbollah Chief. I don't think they will percieve that it is in their interest to go on the offensive in the near future - at least not against the U.S. I think they will sit tight for now. If they were to attack an Obama led U.S., surely world opinion fron Beijing, to Moscow, to Western Europe, to the developing world would turn savagely against them. There is nothing in it for them in that regard.

The only thing that scares me is that $35 oil may drive the Iranians to create trouble in the usual places in order to drive up the price. A continual series of small scale actions might have this affect. Kidnappings, assasinations and the like.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

If he can turn this economy around, they will repeal the 22nd? Ammendment and he will be President for life.

In terms of terrorism, it's a question of scale. If they bomb an embassy and kill tens of people, it won't sidetrack his administration. He will do a more vocal version of Clinton. If there is a large scale attack in this country, then he has a two-headed monster to deal with (economy and national security). My take is that Al-Quada has been weakened to the point that they cannot mount a large scale attack. Most of the other groups are Sunni and Sunnis only attack if they get the go ahead from some authority like Khameni in Iran or Nasralah, the Hesbollah Chief. I don't think they will percieve that it is in their interest to go on the offensive in the near future - at least not against the U.S. I think they will sit tight for now. If they were to attack an Obama led U.S., surely world opinion fron Beijing, to Moscow, to Western Europe, to the developing world would turn savagely against them. There is nothing in it for them in that regard.

The only thing that scares me is that $35 oil may drive the Iranians to create trouble in the usual places in order to drive up the price. A continual series of small scale actions might have this affect. Kidnappings, assasinations and the like.

I wouldn't count Al-Qaida out. 9-11 was done on a shoe string compared to the military operations of a Modern Nation. Obama isn't stupid. Neither was GWB. He just played his hand wrong.
Obama knows were not going to talk Pakistan out of giving up the Taliban. Pakistan has used their tribal proxies like the Taliban against the Soviets, the Chinese, and the Indians. They're using them now in a guerilla war for Kashmir.
From what I hear we've been trying to make a deal with the Taliban die hards through the Pakistani Intelligence to give up Al-Qaida, in return they'd be allowed into Karzai's government. This is the Petreaus model of pay them off and keep them close. He used this with our old Sunni allies to snuff out Al-Qaida in Iraq.

A lot of the Taliban have already returned to power in Afghanistan, so have the warlords, Communists, and drug runners. Obama can send in Mercs, special ops, and Predator drones just like GWB did. But Pakistan will never give up the Taliban die hards. It's not in they're interest. It's speculation what kind of operations the Pakistani Intelligence allow them to execute. Seeing that we haven't been attacked probably none against us. That isn't the case with India.

But I speculate that Obama will continue to try and get the Taliban to sell out Bin Laden and Al-Qaida. It would be a win win for both of them. We could declare the war on Bin Laden over and return home and the Taliban could move back into the cities and get back some political power. They'd probably just change their names like the Sunnis did. They can call themselves an awakening group but everyone one knows they're old Baathist.

I just don't understand this cult of personality that surrounds Obama. How people believe he can do a better job in Afghanistan than GWB did short of nuking the place is beyond me. How we create green jobs is beyond me? You can't run a modern industrial society with wind. I think Obama and the Democrats play the game much better than the Whigs. They're been talking about energy independence since the first Arab oil embargo? I see the children singing songs to him like they do for Kim Joung Il and it makes me mad and scares me a little. This guy is a politician not a diety.