Redskins "Low-balling" Hall (Allegedly)

[SmootSmack]

When did Blache openly work to trade Rogers?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

When did Blache openly work to trade Rogers?

Well, Rogers openly discussed being traded due to Blache's mismanagement of his situation.

So perhaps both parties are responsible for the trade rumors. Either way, this shouldn't have happened.

[over the mountain]

i agree i dont like how we've handled Los situation. seems this year there has been alot of non-communication going on between the players and coaches. jansen is benched and not told why, portis not knowing or caring to check in with the coaches to see if he should be on the field or not, portis not knowing whether he should stay and block or chip and release then cites communication errors in coaches telling him to do 2 different things, los getting benched not told why, man i know theres more.

ABOUT D HALL, i originally wasnt for signing him b/c of his attitude (got burnt by a reciever, then missed the tackle then hits the guy late gets falgged all b/c he was made to look stupid), the way he plays off receivers then tries to jump routes for ints (yeah i know ints are great and we need them but not at the expense of hall gambling by baiting a qb), the fact that as talented as he seems he has been bounced around alot in his relatively short career .. . . with all that said, the current situation we are in we now have made a situation where we cant afford to lose hall and create another area of need. we just are not set up cap or draft wise to beable to handle another area of need beyond OL, DT, OLB.

go skins!!

[vallin21]

Carlos Rogers was not "mishandled" or "misused" his play was horrible which is why he got benched, and his hands were a liability as well. Ranking 4th overall defensively tells me Blache is doing something right. As for Hall, we can agree to disagree, but if you look at production over the course of 3 years Hall is at least a top 15 corner.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by vallin21

Carlos Rogers was not "mishandled" or "misused" his play was horrible which is why he got benched, and his hands were a liability as well. Ranking 4th overall defensively tells me Blache is doing something right. As for Hall, we can agree to disagree, but if you look at production over the course of 3 years Hall is at least a top 15 corner.

I would hardly say his play was horrible. No one will argue that he has bad hands, but he was being talked about as a pro-bowl caliber player emerging as an elite defender during the first half of the season. He may have faded a bit and had a rift with Blache prior to being benched, but calling him horrible is a huge overstatement IMO.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by vallin21

Carlos Rogers was not "mishandled" or "misused" his play was horrible which is why he got benched, and his hands were a liability as well. Ranking 4th overall defensively tells me Blache is doing something right. As for Hall, we can agree to disagree, but if you look at production over the course of 3 years Hall is at least a top 15 corner.

I'm sorry you have a great player right under your nose and can't see it, but I'm going to let the back and forth die here. Clearly, you don't respect talent when you see it, but I'll try not to get worked up over it.

It's baffling to me that you can be so wrong on so many things in a short post, but I'll at least respect your right to disagree with me.

[JoeRedskin]

Carlos "Stone Hands" Rogers was actually a pretty good corner. I was looking for, but could not find, the article demonstrating that, in many ways Rogers was a top 10 corner. At the time of his benching, I thought he was doing very well in stopping receivers and, when the inevitable catches did happen, he made some nice tackles to limit YAC.

IMHO, if the guy caught half of the balls that hit him in the hands, he would be a pro-bowl corner....

or a star in the sequel "Brokeback Mountain II".

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Carlos "Stone Hands" Rogers was actually a pretty good corner. I was looking for, but could not find, the article demonstrating that, in many ways Rogers was a top 10 corner. At the time of his benching, I thought he was doing very well in stopping receivers and, when the inevitable catches did happen, he made some nice tackles to limit YAC.

IMHO, if the guy caught half of the balls that hit him in the hands, he would be a pro-bowl corner....

or a star in the sequel "Brokeback Mountain II".

Agreed. Basically he has to "grow" hands and he'll be pro-bowler and that's a big reason why i think it's nuts to show him the door now. Really nuts. Really, really nuts.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Agreed. Basically he has to "grow" hands and he'll be pro-bowler and that's a big reason why i think it's nuts to show him the door now. Really nuts. Really, really nuts.

A little too much discussion of nuts and balls going around here....

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GMScud

A little too much discussion of nuts and balls going around here....

Hey this is after all a thread about "low-balling". Stop being such a

LOL. :headbange

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Hey this is after all a thread about "low-balling". Stop being such a

LOL. :headbange

That's what I meant- low-balling, nuts nuts nuts, numerous balls hitting rogers in the hands... the imagery is disturbing.

[over the mountain]

haha that last part was wrong on some many levels, lol.

go skins!!

[Meks]

it's be best IMO to just leave the 2ndary alone. maybe draft some young talent in later rounds.

[The Goat]

You know, you're right...