Redskins "Low-balling" Hall (Allegedly)

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

With no cap next year, there is no cap penalty for tagging anyone (obviously), and on top of that, we get two ADDITIONAL franchise tags. It's suffice to say we would use all three if there were enough players hitting free agency that you would want to keep.

Our payroll next season (2010) is likely going to hit 160-170 million, but the talent won't seem like it. The reasoning being that the Redskins never use the franchise tag because there is simply no room in their cap strategies for a player to be tendered. With no cap, we'd probably abuse the franchise tag.

The point is: Rogers is an RFA after next year anyway, wouldn't even need to be tagged, Hall is probably in under a long term deal anyway, so he'll be under contract.

The unlikely candidates for the franchise tender in 2010: Shawn Springs and/or Jason Taylor.

Carlos Rogers will certainly be here for each of the next two seasons unless we get blown away with an offer. After that, who knows? Two of his best years at basically no cost to us...of course Rogers is going to want to get a long-term deal done now. The team holds all of the leverage, and Rogers knows that.

On the other hand, Hall holds most of the leverage in these negotiations, but only if the Redskins buy the fact that he has other suitors. I don't. I think that's crap. The Redskins are only bidding against themselves here.

Would you say the 12m guaranteed is even too high then or in line w/ Hall's value? What I mean is this another case of the FO actually overpaying a player (treating Hall like a FA LOL)?

... thanks for the explanation on Rogers but it raises another question: w/ Los wrapped up for another two years (during his prime btw) and at a relatively reasonable price why this talk of trading the kid?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Would you say the 12m guaranteed is even too high then or in line w/ Hall's value? What I mean is this another case of the FO actually overpaying a player (treating Hall like a FA LOL)?

... thanks for the explanation on Rogers but it raises another question: w/ Los wrapped up for another two years (during his prime btw) and at a relatively reasonable price why this talk of trading the kid?

I have no idea what the going rate for a very young league average corner with potential will be the current economic climate, but I'm guessing that 12 million is not grossly overpaying for his services, especially if the contract extends to or past the time he's 30. 16 million...probably at that point, we're talking elite CB level, which Hall has never been.

And trading Rogers makes no logical sense, which means that I'm inclined to tie this one to Greg Blache (and reports back this). But I've never taken the Rogers rumors too seriously. He's a top ten NFL corner, he's not going anywhere in the immediate.

A year from now, we could be seriously shopping him, but I highly doubt we'll do it for anything but an obscene offer this year. The only player in free agency who could replace Rogers is Asomugha, and if the problem with Rogers is a money thing, well then...