2009 Skins Off Season Plans Ideas, Draft and FA plus cuts

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by gaudiomatt

I know theres probably been a lot of these but I just wanted to throw some ideas out there see how people react they might not all be possible but I think the ideas make a lot of sense.

1. Cut all the enormous contracts on this team not performing. This has to be done with some timing though I don't think it should all be done on day one.

A. Shawn Springs
B. Marcus Washington
C. Cornelius Griffin
D. Reed Doughty
E. Phillip Daniels
F. Casey Rabach
G. Shawn Suisham
H. Jason Fabini
I. James Thrash
H. Let Golston and Kendall go

Well you probably can't and shouldn't cut all of them. But here are my thoughts: Springs-I'd love to keep him if possible; Griffin-if we get an interior DL then just let him go. He's given us four solid years but I don't know that he can give us five; Doughty-love the guy but there's no place for him here; Daniels-very underrated but a 35 year old coming off a torn ACL really can't add much value to us at this point; Washington-see Griffin; Golston-he's young, works hard, and is solid depth, keep him; Suisham-I'm telling you we'd all like to think he's gone but it's not a lock, not by a long shot; Rabach/Fabini/Kendall-we just can't afford to let them all go because we probably won't add enough pieces to the OL in one offseason. I think Fabini is gone though.

B. Resign Montgomery and Alexander for cheap salaries. This should be pretty easy.

I have a feeling keeping Montgomery may not be so easy, but in the end I think he stays. Alexander should be a lock

1. Sign Buccaneers personel man Bruce Allen as our GM, a team with a great track record of drafting lineman and getting quality skill players when he takes them early.

On the Allen bandwagon, I see. What quality skill players are you referring to? Michael Clayton? Maurice Stovall? Dexter Jackson?

2. Sign Stacy Andrews to take over at RT, he should be cheap coming off an injury and is a quality tackle. He can play at pro bowl levels, if he doesn't perform stephon heyer can take over and Jansen is a solid backup.

Not a bad pickup, but you probably have to decide before you even sign Andrews that Heyer or Jansen is gone

[quote]7. Key message, fill holes without breaking bank on massive contracts especialy guys like Gross or Peppers or Haynesworth. We have a track record of making these guys not live up to the money we give them. This seems reasonable to me and with the cuts we would have made we should have some decent money to spend. [QUOTE]

I see what you're saying and I can see the team heading in that direction, but I don't think our problem is that we need to find quality depth to fill holes so much as we need quality starters to allow the quality depth we currently have to go back to being quality depth, instead of being thrust into starter roles and be overmatched.

Draft:
1. Trade out of 13 pick to something in the 22 - 28 range. Try and get a third and sixth rounder in the process.
1. 1st round 26th pick - Peria Jerry DT.
2. 3rd round A - Eric Wood or Jonathon Luigs C.
3. 3rd Round B - Connor Barwin DE. If he's not there go G or DE.
4. 5th round A - Zach Fulton LB
5. 5th Round B - Pat White QB who probably won't be there but if he's not fill our roster out with needs on the oline and dline.

Another person jumping on Barwin Bandwagon

[gaudiomatt]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

On the Allen bandwagon, I see. What quality skill players are you referring to? Michael Clayton? Maurice Stovall? Dexter Jackson?

I'm only on the Allen bandwagon because it's a rumor right now.
Pros: I think he would be interesting here because he has some qualities that are very unique. First things first; the guy has taken a player in every round of the draft every year he's been there. Having our draft picks would be pretty fing nice around here. Two the guy gets high intensity aggressive players with a lot of fire which is what I like. The Buccanneers are and have been a hard hitting team so that might be Gruden, might just be the John Lynch era but I wouldn't mind that mentality. He drafts a lot of Olineman and Dlineman. The Bucs have a good amount of depth. So I like all of that and if Gruden doesn't find work I don't think he should be GM here but I'm sure Snyder could pay him enough to become a part of the organization which would be nice for our brain trust not to be 2/3 cerratto and snyder every year. Maybe Allen hires the cheerleaders too the Bucs are by far the best in the league.

Cons: He's tied at the hip with Gruden so if Gruden finds work he's not coming here. He's just took Talib the CB in the late first round and the guy has performed very well as a starter. Other then that Mark Clayton is the only guy he's really taken recently. The Bucs can fight but they don't have a ton of talent on that team anymore, in any position. They have a terrible QB situation there in my opinion I don't want that. His team is 45$ million under the cap, which I'm sure Snyder would like but that doesn't make any sense to me, why would you not want to spend that and pick up players thats just cheap in my opinion even though it takes a lot of skill. With us approaching no salary cap that talent would also be kinda useless.

So overall I would like this guy to be here, But really I just want Cerratto to get the f out of D.C. more.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by gaudiomatt

I'm only on the Allen bandwagon because it's a rumor right now.

Fair enough, I think that rumor is dying down a bit now.

Personally, I don't think Allen is substantially better than anything we currently have in our personnel department and it's not like his hiring would be the catalyst toward landing some big-time coach, such as Cowher, if that was a direction we took.

I would like to see the final authority over the entire process handed over to either Scott Campbell or Morocco Brown before we bring in someone like Bruce Allen.

But more than anything, we need some stability in our philosophy. I think that's a much bigger deal than who the coach is or who the general manager is. We must commit to commitment! Look at the Steelers for example, even when they changed from Cowher to Tomlin their identity (hard nosed defense, control the clock) remained the same. When the Giants went from Ernie Accorsi to Jerry Reese their identity (build through the draft, fill through free agency) remained constant.

For various reasons we have lacked a consistent identity for nearly the past decade, save for when Gibbs was here (but even then may have een suspect). Our changes were as radical as they could possibly be, Martyball to the Fun and Gun, Gibbs/Saunders to the West Coast. With such radical shifts in philosophies and identities it's a wonder we haven't been worse.