2009 Skins Off Season Plans Ideas, Draft and FA plus cuts

[gaudiomatt]

Originally Posted by BeastsoftheNFCeast

This situation you propose would NEVER happen. Letting go of 11 players that get significant playing time, 9 of them being starters and filling the holes with free agency. Cutting these guys to free up cap space, how long have you been a Redskins fan? We dont do that, we keep our key players and restructure deals. A few cuts might be made, but not even close to that amount. Plus if we wanted to ensure that we get all these free agents you desire, we will have to overpay for them or they will get away to someone else who will. Doing so will defeat the purpose of cutting our players to free up cap space...we're better off with consistency. I also have no idea how you judge talent, cut rabach? keep taylor but cut springs? Keep Jansen AND sign Andrews while we have heyer to backup? Bank on Reinhart starting despite him not getting in any games this year? Cut Griffin and Golston to sign Bernard and bank that we will get a solid DT in the draft? You have some pretty interesting viewpoints.

9 Starters, only 3 of those guys contribute at even a minimal level man man, griffin rabach and kendall. Kendalls a free agent I don't see why we should resign him hes in his late 30s, we could bring in a younger guard. Griffins salary is bs he doesn't do anything. Rabach isn't horrible but it's time to get a new center, our interior o line needs to be blown up its horrible. I don't know what case you could make for any of te other guys. And no none of them start or should be starting in this league. And my judging of talent is coupled with the salary cap, and if you actually look at the cap, what I proposed is completely reasonable. And if you looked at the free agents I proposed we sign, you'll see that in a year we're free agents already are not going to be making a lot of money because of the economy, the fact that none of them are big names and all involve a little risk factor yea they will take up our cap space but leave us with enough to sign our rookies, what the hell is the point of having free cap space so you can sign players who you didn't sign. And I've been a Redskins fan since I was born so **** off.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

I think we should take a look at Channing Crowder. Sure I'm biased towards Gators, but he's a good young player, durable, would fit our scheme, and probably wouldn't cost too much.

ProFootballTalk.com - FINS MIGHT LOSE CROWDER

Doesn't he have a recurring knee problem and isn't he an inside linebacker? I think we need OLB beasts

[Son Of Man]

Draft:
1. Trade out of 13 pick to something in the 22 - 28 range. Try and get a third and sixth rounder in the process.
1. 1st round 26th pick - Peria Jerry DT.
2. 3rd round A - Eric Wood or Jonathon Luigs C.
3. 3rd Round B - Connor Barwin DE. If he's not there go G or DE.
4. 5th round A - Zach Fulton LB
5. 5th Round B - Pat White QB who probably won't be there but if he's not fill our roster out with needs on the oline and dline.


I would consider trading the pick if we could make a deal with, say, Detroit, for their later 1st round and early 2nd round pick. But if a special player fell to us at 13 overall such as:

OT- Monroe (highly unlikely)
DE - Orakpo (possible)
LB - Mauluaga (very likely)

I know LB is not a need for us, but special players come by every so often and this guy could be special. I would pass on OHER though. I watched the Senior Bowl twice and was underwhelmed for his value at 13th overall.

[A10sROCK]

I think we have to stay the course with Zorn; drop the most expensive and oldest players; pick up as much as we can for the OL and DL in the draft - exclusively. Use our limited FA money for holes when they drop Washington and probably Jason Taylor.

We'll probably only drop those that want to leave or won't restructure.

[PWNED]

couldnt we get a decent LB in FA to hold it down until our next draft? i think our defense is pretty good and i think that blades is ready to hold down that spot. i think we use ALL our picks in the trenches.

[Trample the Elderly]

Y'all are missing the point. There is no way possible to replace all of the older players in one off season with free agency or with four draft picks. Cutting Jansen, Griffin, Thomas, and Raback and replacing them would be a savage burn.

Springs, Taylor, and Washington could be let go. But Springs and Washington are quality players (although old and injury prone) and if they're going to be replaced we need to get someone who can play their position at least up to their level.
Rebuilding this team over night isn't feasible, economically or philosophically. I would've made Greg Williams the coach but that's just me.

I'd wait until Jim Zorn's contract is up to fire him and Vinny if the team isn't a playoff bound team every year after. This will take at least two drafts or three drafts. It will take that long to get rid of all the restructured contracts. I would wait until at least 2011 to 2012 to fire both of them at once. If you get rid of them now we'd not be able to get anyone else here better than them.
If we're not up to speed by then (2011-2012), Danny will show the NFL he's not a meddler but is still willing to spend money, all of our dead weight will be gone, we'll have younger players, we'll have more money, and we'll be able to start picking up more draft picks do to the rookies recycling out into FA.

They've dug this hole for many seasons. It will not get fixed in one off season with four draft picks and sub-par FAs.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Y'all are missing the point. There is no way possible to replace all of the older players in one off season with free agency or with four draft picks. Cutting Jansen, Griffin, Thomas, and Raback and replacing them would be a savage burn.

Springs, Taylor, and Washington could be let go. But Springs and Washington are quality players (although old and injury prone) and if they're going to be replaced we need to get someone who can play their position at least up to their level.
Rebuilding this team over night isn't feasible, economically or philosophically. I would've made Greg Williams the coach but that's just me.

I'd wait until Jim Zorn's contract is up to fire him and Vinny if the team isn't a playoff bound team every year after. This will take at least two drafts or three drafts. It will take that long to get rid of all the restructured contracts. I would wait until at least 2011 to 2012 to fire both of them at once. If you get rid of them now we'd not be able to get anyone else here better than them.
If we're not up to speed by then (2011-2012), Danny will show the NFL he's not a meddler but is still willing to spend money, all of our dead weight will be gone, we'll have younger players, we'll have more money, and we'll be able to start picking up more draft picks do to the rookies recycling out into FA.

They've dug this hole for many seasons. It will not get fixed in one off season with four draft picks and sub-par FAs.

I agree, these crazy offseason plans by some people that involve cutting half the roster are just ridiculous. Our hands are tied with some big contracts and a limited number of draft picks. Those hoping for drastic changes to the roster are going to be really disappointed.

[PWNED]

for some reason i think we draft an LB with our first pick and then think we can get some good OL talent in the 3rd round. i REALLY REALLY think that taking OL in the first round is where we get the best value. our defense is going to be fine, its our offense that needs to come around.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Doesn't he have a recurring knee problem and isn't he an inside linebacker? I think we need OLB beasts

You're right, he was an ILB for the Phins, but in a 3-4 scheme. He played OLB in a 4-3 at Florida. He had a knee surgery or two while playing for Florida, but he's played in 58 of 64 possible games as a pro.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

What's with all the love for Alex Mack? I mean believe me I love that you guys are lobbying for O-Lineman but this is a deep draft at Center. If anything I would rather get Curry or Meluga (assuming we pickup at least one suitable OL free agent like Vernon Carey) or if those guys aren't available pounce on the opportunity to grab Michael Oher. However unless Alex Mack really is the next Matt Birk then I'd rather go Top 2 LB or Top 4 OT with our 1st round pick (or as some people have been saying lately all over the fanbase 13th round pick).

Just for you Dirtbag. Alex Mack, Center California : NFL Draft Prospect

[GusFrerotte]

Thrash is a must go. He is a holdover from the Norv days, once a great ST guy, but not a very good WR anymore. In hindsight, we should have never reacquired him from the Eagles. Jason Taylor is a waste of roster space. He had one stellar game at the end and a bunch of folks got visions of JT dancing in their heads. The guy is on the downward slope of his career. WE need a young guy that will be around for at least 4 years. Springs should be cut for sure. Guy can't put together 3 games without being hurt.

[Dirtbag59]

I say bring back Jerome Mathis. That's my entire plan for the offseason.

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Just for you Dirtbag. Alex Mack, Center California : NFL Draft Prospect

Well I'll be damned.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I agree, these crazy offseason plans by some people that involve cutting half the roster are just ridiculous. Our hands are tied with some big contracts and a limited number of draft picks. Those hoping for drastic changes to the roster are going to be really disappointed.

I think you're right Matty, people think things are going to be fixed right away. I hope the fans and the ownership are patient enough to let the team get out of these cap-killing contracts of old players that can't contribute anymore, and over time be able to add youth into the team. Reading the latest JLC article on RI, it sounds like we're going to be keeping the likes of Griffin, Jensen, and Thomas. Let's hope the team is able to patch up the team to keep us over .500, and that some of the young players the team has are able to develop and contribute (although hearing that Rineheart is not wowing anyone at Redskins Park is disappointing to hear).

[portisrunshard]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I'm going to sit back and see what we do in the first 2 weeks after the Super Bowl with our older vets before getting my expectations up or down for the offseason. That's going to set the tone for our spring and summer and ultimately next season.

Same here!

[portisrunshard]

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