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[saden1]

You know what I find ironic? The fact that conservatives talk about freedom, democracy and liberty yet are willing to hold people/suspects in prison indefinitely without trial. They're willing to toss principles of freedom and the right to self-determination when a woman wants to terminate a pregnancy. They're OK with the killing that comes with war and civilian "collateral damage."

Abortion is OK so long as a woman makes the choice to abort before the 5 and half month mark.

[70Chip]

Originally Posted by saden1

You know what I find ironic? The fact that conservatives talk about freedom, democracy and liberty yet are willing to hold people/suspects in prison indefinitely without trial. They're willing to toss principles of freedom and the right to self-determination when a woman wants to terminate a pregnancy. They're OK with the killing that comes with war and civilian "collateral damage."

Abortion is OK so long as a woman makes the choice to abort before the 5 and half month mark.

So you are "for" abortion, correct?

[saden1]

Originally Posted by 70Chip

So you are "for" abortion, correct?

I am for people to have thee ability to exercise the right to abort an unwanted pregnancy. The only thing I would add to equation is reasonable and timely decision making.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by saden1

You know what I find ironic? The fact that conservatives talk about freedom, democracy and liberty yet are willing to hold people/suspects in prison indefinitely without trial. They're willing to toss principles of freedom and the right to self-determination when a woman wants to terminate a pregnancy. They're OK with the killing that comes with war and civilian "collateral damage."

Abortion is OK so long as a woman makes the choice to abort before the 5 and half month mark.

I've got no problem holding suspected terrorists/murders, especially when those that get released go out and kill again. Let's not pretend we're holding upstanding and decent people at GITMO. We do agree that they shouldn't be held indefinitely, they should've been tried by military tribunals and formally imprisioned or executed already. I have no answer why the Bush Administration didn't tackle this more aggressively.

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I've got no problem with a woman's self-determination if she wants to terminate her own life, have at it. However the innocent and defensless life inside her has rights to freedom and self-determination too...correct? We just disagree on the definition of life.

From a government perspective, IMO the abortion issue should be decided by individual states with third trimester abortion being completely outlawed by the Fed. I'm not concerned about the counseling services, people can say what they want as long as my tax dollars aren't funding actual abortions, it's not my place to repress someone's opinion. We'll all eventually answer to the "Man" when our time is up.

P.S. F GB, and I hope you didn't have to work too late