2009 Skins Off Season Plans Ideas, Draft and FA plus cuts

[redsk1]

The only untouchables on our team in no order are:

Cooley
Samuels
Fletch
Landry
Horton
Campbell-he's cheap


Everybody else I'm not sure about. Yes, Moss & CP, the oline can all be bargaining pieces or cut material (aside from the financial obligations).

I'd like to see this core group have a great year next year, it's just I'm not optimistic about it.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by redsk1

The only untouchables on our team in no order are:

Cooley
Samuels
Fletch
Landry
Horton
Campbell-he's cheap


Everybody else I'm not sure about. Yes, Moss & CP, the oline can all be bargaining pieces or cut material (aside from the financial obligations).

I'd like to see this core group have a great year next year, it's just I'm not optimistic about it.

Horton and Campbell are not untouchable. Both are expendable with low cap numbers and have trade value. Whether trading them is in the best interests of the team is another matter, and depends on whether they are more valuable to the team than they are in terms of trade value. Both will probably be kept, but they are by no means "untouchable."

The true "untouchables" on this team are the players who large amounts of money garaunteed to them - Portis, Jansen, Thomas, Samuels, Cooley, and Carter come to mind off the top of my head. And make no mistake, Jansen, Thomas, and Carter, and possibly Portis would all be cut if the team could do so without the team taking a significant cap hit. If Cooley had not just signed such a huge contract and trading him didnt involve the team taking a cap hit well north of 10M, we'd already be in discussion to trade him for a 1st rounder. This is a business and there is no such thing as loyalty between players and fans. When it comes to someone being "untouchable," Financials are the one and only thing that matters. You cant ignore them.

[redsk1]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Horton and Campbell are not untouchable. Both are expendable with low cap numbers and have trade value. Whether trading them is in the best interests of the team is another matter, and depends on whether they are more valuable to the team than they are in terms of trade value. Both will probably be kept, but they are by no means "untouchable."

The true "untouchables" on this team are the players who large amounts of money garaunteed to them - Portis, Jansen, Thomas, Samuels, Cooley, and Carter come to mind off the top of my head. And make no mistake, Jansen, Thomas, and Carter, and possibly Portis would all be cut if the team could do so without the team taking a significant cap hit. If Cooley had not just signed such a huge contract and trading him didnt involve the team taking a cap hit well north of 10M, we'd already be in discussion to trade him for a 1st rounder. This is a business and there is no such thing as loyalty between players and fans. When it comes to someone being "untouchable," Financials are the one and only thing that matters. You cant ignore them.

Cooley is untouchable and is not even worth mentioning. He's the face of the franchise basically now. 2 PB's in a row. Performs every week. What's not to like about Cooley? He's perhaps our best asset.

Yes, financials are a big part of it..maybe the biggest part of it, w/ the way our "FO" handles it's contracts. I got blasted a couple years ago b/c i made a point that it's eventually going to come back and bite us. It's starting to bite us. We can't get rid of old guys. I guess my point was if you could somehow get rid of certain old players for trades, picks, or just by cutting them, let's do it and move on.