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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by saden1

The House GOP still haven't gotten the memo that they don't have to show up to work and *** will still get passed. Isn't this the saddest thing you've ever seen?

I am not sure which is sadder that apparently for the next 2 years 40-50% of the American public will have no say in the direction of the country, even though they went to the polls and voted, or the fact that you apparently think that is a good thing.

[Trample the Elderly]

The House GOP still haven't gotten the memo that they don't have to show up to work and shit will still get passed. Isn't this the saddest thing you've ever seen?

No, that's not the saddest thing I've ever seen. Seeing Hillary getting thrown under the bus was sad. Having the Congress bitch about bad equipment and blame the deaths of soldiers on the Executive Branch was sad. Seeing how they're in charge of appropriating the equipment, it is sad seeing so-called leaders play politics with people's lives.

Those GOP Congressmen still represent the people who put them in office and they're not going anywhere.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I am not sure which is sadder that apparently for the next 2 years 40-50% of the American public will have no say in the direction of the country, even though they went to the polls and voted, or the fact that you apparently think that is a good thing.

The country as a whole choose to change leadership. If you're goint to try to lead don't talk about how you want the stimulus to be 100% tax cut and at least understand basic economics. If you have a rational and reasonable policy agenda we can talk but you have people hell bent to get their own way and scuttlebutt the new administration's agenda at every turn. It takes two to tango and Obama is wearing the pants in the relationship.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by saden1

The country as a whole choose to change leadership. If you're goint to try to lead don't talk about how you want the stimulus to be 100% tax cut and at least understand basic economics. If you have a rational and reasonable policy agenda we can talk but you have people hell bent to get their own way and scuttlebutt the new administration's agenda at every turn. It takes two to tango and Obama is wearing the pants in the relationship.

The country as a whole didn't choose to change. I didn't vote. Millions of people voted for McCain. My friend voted for Brett Favre. Obama may have won by a comfortable margin but he didn't have a Reagan style blowout. Yeah, you can say that now. Oh we won the election you can just be quiet. That's not what happened when Bush was in office. The Democrats ran their mouths like they had won. Now that the shoes is on the other foot I hope what's left of the Republicans fight the Democrats every step of the way. With any luck they can pull blue dogs like the Dems used to pull moderates.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

The country as a whole didn't choose to change. I didn't vote. Millions of people voted for McCain. My friend voted for Brett Favre. Obama may have won by a comfortable margin but he didn't have a Reagan style blowout. Yeah, you can say that now. Oh we won the election you can just be quiet. That's not what happened when Bush was in office. The Democrats ran their mouths like they had won. Now that the shoes is on the other foot I hope what's left of the Republicans fight the Democrats every step of the way. With any luck they can pull blue dogs like the Dems used to pull moderates.

Well, technically they did win.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Well, technically they did win.

So did a lof of other Congressmen and Senators. It doesn't matter if they won if they can't get they're agenda off the ground.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

The country as a whole didn't choose to change. I didn't vote. Millions of people voted for McCain. My friend voted for Brett Favre. Obama may have won by a comfortable margin but he didn't have a Reagan style blowout. Yeah, you can say that now. Oh we won the election you can just be quiet. That's not what happened when Bush was in office. The Democrats ran their mouths like they had won. Now that the shoes is on the other foot I hope what's left of the Republicans fight the Democrats every step of the way. With any luck they can pull blue dogs like the Dems used to pull moderates.

The country as a whole DID vote for change whatever change represents to you is a different story. The fact that you didn't vote is your problem, yea. More power to the GOP if they can sway the blue dogs. They're 77 seats down and there are 47 blue dogs which means they need 39 blue dog votes to get their way. Good luck to them because by all accounts the house GOP is irrelevant.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by saden1

The country as a whole DID vote for change whatever change represents to you is a different story. The fact that you didn't vote is your problem, yea. More power to the GOP if they can sway the blue dogs. They're 77 seats down and there are 47 blue dogs which means they need 39 blue dog votes to get their way. Good luck to them because by all accounts the house GOP is irrelevant.

We'll see.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

We'll see.

I assure you we'll see it time and again for the next two years.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by saden1

I assure you we'll see it time and again for the next two years.

You don't have to wait that long . . . . and another one.

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[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by saden1

The country as a whole choose to change leadership. If you're goint to try to lead don't talk about how you want the stimulus to be 100% tax cut and at least understand basic economics. If you have a rational and reasonable policy agenda we can talk but you have people hell bent to get their own way and scuttlebutt the new administration's agenda at every turn. It takes two to tango and Obama is wearing the pants in the relationship.

Just like Bush was elected 4 years ago by the "country as a whole" and the Democrats followed his lead, or the House went Republican by the "country as a whole" with the "Contract with America period" and the Democrats followed their lead.
Whatever, it is the way our system works and I understand that, but please then don't say you are changing anything in DC, all you are doing is the same thing that has gone on for the last 40 years.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Just like Bush was elected 4 years ago by the "country as a whole" and the Democrats followed his lead, or the House went Republican by the "country as a whole" with the "Contract with America period" and the Democrats followed their lead.
Whatever, it is the way our system works and I understand that, but please then don't say you are changing anything in DC, all you are doing is the same thing that has gone on for the last 40 years.

When you have 36 GOP senators who don't believe in government spending as a means of economic recovery and threaten to filibuster the stimulus bill WTF are we going to talk about? They can play their games, if was Obama I would tell them go eat a hogmog and have them filibuster the bill.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

When you have 36 GOP senators who don't believe in government spending as a means of economic recovery and threaten to filibuster the stimulus bill WTF are we going to talk about? They can play their games, if was Obama I would tell them go eat a hogmog and have them filibuster the bill.

If this was such a great bill why don't the Dem's just pass the bill without Rep. vote because I'm sure there are two Rep. that will vote for this bill. The reason is because this bill does not do squat and will fail and the Dems do not want to be the only party that pushed this pork through. This bill is sponsored by SmithField Foods the largest producer of pork sponsoring the largest bill of pork ever passed.