I think the Redskins should Go to A 3-4 Defense.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by Daseal

T.O.Killa -- Look at Carters stats as a LB -- they weren't very good. He's good at DE, we should keep him here. If you really think Griff or Monty could play NT you're delusional. If we switch to a 3-4 we better get some 350 monster to anchor the Dline and eat up blocks.

It is hard to quantify those stats. I dont like him at DE or LB. one good year. I think that either defense would require about the same amount of new faces to make them good. The 3-4 is the superior defense, right now.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I've been wanting to post this for a long time. Why dont the Redskins go to a 3-4 defense. It seems to be the dominant defense in the league and I think we have the players. Jason Taylor would be better siuted to it and we could have Golston and Evans play the ends and Monty play NT. Wilson could probably play some LB and maybe a Suggs in Free agency or a Dansby. What Do you guys think.

I think the biggest issue about going to the 3-4 is that none of the current coaches knows how to run/install it.

Greg Blache is a 4-3 guy the next man in the pecking order is Jerry Gray a
4-3 guy. I don't know about Olivadotti or Palermo background.

But, i agree we could run it. We ran a defense in the second Eagles game that looked alot like a 3-4, Blache just had JT55 stand up and roam around.

Hypothetically we could put:
LE Golston/Evans NT Monty/Griffin/Golston RE Alexander/Evans
LOLB-Carter/Rob Jackson ILB- Rocky ILB-Fletcher ROLB-JT/Wilson

Interesting post.

[MTK]

I feel like we have this conversation every offseason. What is the fascination with the 3-4??

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I feel like we have this conversation every offseason. What is the fascination with the 3-4??

weve been in essentially the same defense for nearly a decade (Lewis, Williams, and now Blache). People want something new for the sake of having something new. The only way i'd want the 3-4 here is if it meant we were getting rid of Blache for a defensive coordinator who isnt scared to attack. However, since our offense is in shambles and our defense is the only thing our team can consider a strength, id shudder to think of how bad we'd be in 2009 while transitioning to a 3-4.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

weve been in essentially the same defense for nearly a decade (Lewis, Williams, and now Blache). People want something new for the sake of having something new. The only way i'd want the 3-4 here is if it meant we were getting rid of Blache for a defensive coordinator who isnt scared to attack. However, since our offense is in shambles and our defense is the only thing our team can consider a strength, id shudder to think of how bad we'd be in 2009 while transitioning to a 3-4.

That's usually the case, and a pretty lame reason to me. If something works why blow it up and "fix it"?

[T.O.Killa]

The reason I like the 3-4 is that it seems to be winning more superbowls and we have a bunch of de that are realy LB size. We also have a bunch of DL that are tweeners in the 4-3. Like Daniels, Evans, and Alexander. I agree our coaches may not be the best fit. But Lewis certainly was able to run a 4-3 here and a 3-4 in Bmore, so maybe they can.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

The reason I like the 3-4 is that it seems to be winning more superbowls and we have a bunch of de that are realy LB size. We also have a bunch of DL that are tweeners in the 4-3. Like Daniels, Evans, and Alexander. I agree our coaches may not be the best fit. But Lewis certainly was able to run a 4-3 here and a 3-4 in Bmore, so maybe they can.

Why would you completely change the only part of our team that has kept us from having a losing season 3 out of the past four seasons? Just because the two teams in the Superbowl have the 3-4 defense?

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Why would you completely change the only part of our team that has kept us from having a losing season 3 out of the past four seasons? Just because the two teams in the Superbowl have the 3-4 defense?

I dont think our defense was a good as the stats. Our Offense was horrible. All any team had to do was score, and play concervative. I also think our talent is better siuted to it. We need a pass rush. Teams that have used the 3-4 for a long time, New England, and Pittsburg.

[mvb2328]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I dont think our defense was a good as the stats. Our Offense was horrible. All any team had to do was score, and play concervative. I also think our talent is better siuted to it. We need a pass rush. Teams that have used the 3-4 for a long time, New England, and Pittsburg.

don't mess with a defense that is ranked 4th in the league!

[REDSKIN1]

Originally Posted by mvb2328

don't mess with a defense that is ranked 4th in the league!

Exactly......Shouldn't we be focused on the off. and possibly upgrading the defense, not changing a defense that ranked fouth in the league.
Where is our focus?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

I dont think our defense was a good as the stats. Our Offense was horrible. All any team had to do was score, and play concervative. I also think our talent is better siuted to it. We need a pass rush. Teams that have used the 3-4 for a long time, New England, and Pittsburg.

I wouldn't compare our defense with New England or Pittsburgh, b/c those teams actually have an offense that compliments their good defense (well in Pittsburgh's case, in New England's case they have a powerful offense that goes along with their good defense). But I think our defense is the reason we haven't had four straight losing seasons. Given our problems with the defensive line and our aging LB group, I think your assessment of having the talent suited to a 3-4 defense is flawed. Furthermore, our team needs to focus on the offensive line and is restricted by salary cap, aging veterans' contracts, and four draft picks. So you're being a bit ambitious with your proposal.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

The reason I like the 3-4 is that it seems to be winning more superbowls and we have a bunch of de that are realy LB size. We also have a bunch of DL that are tweeners in the 4-3. Like Daniels, Evans, and Alexander. I agree our coaches may not be the best fit. But Lewis certainly was able to run a 4-3 here and a 3-4 in Bmore, so maybe they can.

I don't think Marvin Lewis ran a 3-4 in Balt. When they won the SB in 2000 they ran a 4-3. Mike Nolan ran the 3-4.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

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I don't think Marvin Lewis ran a 3-4 in Balt. When they won the SB in 2000 they ran a 4-3. Mike Nolan ran the 3-4.

I thought Baltimore always ran a 3-4.

[Eknox]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

The reason I like the 3-4 is that it seems to be winning more superbowls and we have a bunch of de that are realy LB size. We also have a bunch of DL that are tweeners in the 4-3. Like Daniels, Evans, and Alexander. I agree our coaches may not be the best fit. But Lewis certainly was able to run a 4-3 here and a 3-4 in Bmore, so maybe they can.

I'm with ya T.O. Killa...I too like the 3-4 a lot of movement and aggressive hard hitting

[skinsfan69]

We don't have the personel to run a 3-4. I don't see NT's like Casey Hampton or Jamal Williams on our roster and I sure as hell don't see pass rushers like Shawn Merriman, James Harrison or Demarcus Ware anywhere on our roster. We're fine playing a 4-3. We just need to draft a 4-3 end that can cause some havoc.