Updated: Daschle Withdraws; Didn't these guys have to fill out an application?

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by saden1

The country as a whole choose to change leadership. If you're goint to try to lead don't talk about how you want the stimulus to be 100% tax cut and at least understand basic economics. If you have a rational and reasonable policy agenda we can talk but you have people hell bent to get their own way and scuttlebutt the new administration's agenda at every turn. It takes two to tango and Obama is wearing the pants in the relationship.

The country as a whole didn't choose to change. I didn't vote. Millions of people voted for McCain. My friend voted for Brett Favre. Obama may have won by a comfortable margin but he didn't have a Reagan style blowout. Yeah, you can say that now. Oh we won the election you can just be quiet. That's not what happened when Bush was in office. The Democrats ran their mouths like they had won. Now that the shoes is on the other foot I hope what's left of the Republicans fight the Democrats every step of the way. With any luck they can pull blue dogs like the Dems used to pull moderates.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

The country as a whole didn't choose to change. I didn't vote. Millions of people voted for McCain. My friend voted for Brett Favre. Obama may have won by a comfortable margin but he didn't have a Reagan style blowout. Yeah, you can say that now. Oh we won the election you can just be quiet. That's not what happened when Bush was in office. The Democrats ran their mouths like they had won. Now that the shoes is on the other foot I hope what's left of the Republicans fight the Democrats every step of the way. With any luck they can pull blue dogs like the Dems used to pull moderates.

Well, technically they did win.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Well, technically they did win.

So did a lof of other Congressmen and Senators. It doesn't matter if they won if they can't get they're agenda off the ground.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

The country as a whole didn't choose to change. I didn't vote. Millions of people voted for McCain. My friend voted for Brett Favre. Obama may have won by a comfortable margin but he didn't have a Reagan style blowout. Yeah, you can say that now. Oh we won the election you can just be quiet. That's not what happened when Bush was in office. The Democrats ran their mouths like they had won. Now that the shoes is on the other foot I hope what's left of the Republicans fight the Democrats every step of the way. With any luck they can pull blue dogs like the Dems used to pull moderates.

The country as a whole DID vote for change whatever change represents to you is a different story. The fact that you didn't vote is your problem, yea. More power to the GOP if they can sway the blue dogs. They're 77 seats down and there are 47 blue dogs which means they need 39 blue dog votes to get their way. Good luck to them because by all accounts the house GOP is irrelevant.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by saden1

The country as a whole DID vote for change whatever change represents to you is a different story. The fact that you didn't vote is your problem, yea. More power to the GOP if they can sway the blue dogs. They're 77 seats down and there are 47 blue dogs which means they need 39 blue dog votes to get their way. Good luck to them because by all accounts the house GOP is irrelevant.

We'll see.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

We'll see.

I assure you we'll see it time and again for the next two years.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by saden1

I assure you we'll see it time and again for the next two years.

You don't have to wait that long . . . . and another one.

Solis Senate Session Postponed in Wake of Husband's Tax Lien Revelations | 44 | washingtonpost.com

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

You don't have to wait that long . . . . and another one.

Solis Senate Session Postponed in Wake of Husband's Tax Lien Revelations | 44 | washingtonpost.com

Trample, just using your note as a bounce point; What amazes me, Saden, is that since someone you agree with is now in the drivers seat, everything is cool and kosher. Me, I hope Obama can get the country on its feet, and do so in a way that truly reflects a change of principle and philosophy from the Clinton/Bush legacy of partisan politics-country be d**mnd. But I am far closer to Trample's point of view then Obama's (or Bush's for that matter). and all I see is the same tired arguments for the same failed policies (democrats with theirs republicans with theirs) and you, and many others cheering up a storm because it's your guys turn and not the others.
Saden, I know you won't respond, because every time I try to point out a bigger picture, you have pulled out a partisan phrase and responded to that point ignoring every main point in my posts.
Once more, my point here, is Obama is behaving like a normal politician, he has not changed the tenor or tone of DC, nor has he worked to the betterment of the country over his particular beliefs.

What he had done so far is - he has taken his beliefs and pushed forward with his agenda boldly following an election which was as much about Bush's failure and a fresh face in Obama as it was that the country suddenly turned to an extreme liberal agenda.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

Trample, just using your note as a bounce point; What amazes me, Saden, is that since someone you agree with is now in the drivers seat, everything is cool and kosher. Me, I hope Obama can get the country on its feet, and do so in a way that truly reflects a change of principle and philosophy from the Clinton/Bush legacy of partisan politics-country be d**mnd. But I am far closer to Trample's point of view then Obama's (or Bush's for that matter). and all I see is the same tired arguments for the same failed policies (democrats with theirs republicans with theirs) and you, and many others cheering up a storm because it's your guys turn and not the others.
Saden, I know you won't respond, because every time I try to point out a bigger picture, you have pulled out a partisan phrase and responded to that point ignoring every main point in my posts.
Once more, my point here, is Obama is behaving like a normal politician, he has not changed the tenor or tone of DC, nor has he worked to the betterment of the country over his particular beliefs.

What he had done so far is - he has taken his beliefs and pushed forward with his agenda boldly following an election which was as much about Bush's failure and a fresh face in Obama as it was that the country suddenly turned to an extreme liberal agenda.

No, you got it all wrong. I don't like some of the thing in the stimulus but even more so I loath the alternative plan put forth by the GOP. It is retarded. They don't even f'ing understand the domain problem or they do but they're in the "I hope he fails" boat.

The Problem:
1. People are being laid-off.
2. Unemployment climbing.
3. People aren't buying things.
4. Companies aren't making money.
5. Go back to step 1 and repeat.


GOP Solution:
1. Tax cut for people.
2. Tax cut for corporation.
3. Tax cut for small business.
4. Supply side economics will take care of the rest.

Truly handicapped.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

You don't have to wait that long . . . . and another one.

Solis Senate Session Postponed in Wake of Husband's Tax Lien Revelations | 44 | washingtonpost.com

Huh?

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by saden1

Huh?

Didn't she have to fill out an application? Oh that's right only the little people pay taxes.
Actually my solution is to the right of the Republicans. Everyone but Corporations pay NO taxes. Corporations pay a flat 10%.