Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2009

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I disagree. JLC is reporting $15 million in guarantees is the ballpark for Hall. Going off that, no matter what length a deal you give him, you can only allocate that over 5 years. So the guarantee would count $3.0 million in 2009.

But you could still get around the 30% rule with an adequately lengthy contract, perhaps 6-8 years, allowing you to grow base salaries and include unguaranteed option bonuses in the out years. Perhaps the base salary in 2009 would have to be $1.5 million in order to keep with 30%, but I can't see it needing to be much higher than that. The absolute max cap hit for Hall would be $5.0 million, and I think closer to $4.0 is realistic given the 'Skins' ability to restructure/extend their other guys.

you seriously think a player is going to be under contract for 6-8 years just for cap purposes? 5 years means he's free at 30, instead of 32-33 (BIG difference). i think contracts over 6 years were made illegal too, but i'm not sure. I just really don't see him or his agent bending over backwards to help the skins after taking this long to get a deal done. Not to mention adding huge salaries on the end of a deal for ego is worthless to most players, since they want to actually get paid, and backloading our deal just makes our offer less competitive.

I think 5mill is more realistic, unless that option bonus is like, 20mill or something stupid.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by That Guy

you seriously think a player is going to be under contract for 6-8 years just for cap purposes? 5 years means he's free at 30, instead of 32-33 (BIG difference). i think contracts over 6 years were made illegal too, but i'm not sure. I just really don't see him or his agent bending over backwards to help the skins after taking this long to get a deal done. Not to mention adding huge salaries on the end of a deal for ego is worthless to most players, since they want to actually get paid, and backloading our deal just makes our offer less competitive.

I think 5mill is more realistic, unless that option bonus is like, 20mill or something stupid.

If the contract is sufficiently backloaded or loaded with option bonuses, it doesn't matter how long the contract is. The player and player agent will know that when the salary/option bonus is scheduled to jump, the team has a decision to make: keep him or cut him. Either the player gets kept for a huge base salary (Jason Taylor this year) or cut and allowed to seek employment elsewhere. It's a win win for the player. DeAngelo Hall had a 7 year contract with the Raiders. Nate Clements signed an 8 year deal with the 49ers. Asomugha just reupped with the Raiders for 6 years.

In football players don't worry about long contracts because they're not guaranteed. If they actually play out the contract, they get friggin rich. If they get cut, they end up with another shot at a new contract.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by That Guy

you seriously think a player is going to be under contract for 6-8 years just for cap purposes? 5 years means he's free at 30, instead of 32-33 (BIG difference). i think contracts over 6 years were made illegal too, but i'm not sure. I just really don't see him or his agent bending over backwards to help the skins after taking this long to get a deal done. Not to mention adding huge salaries on the end of a deal for ego is worthless to most players, since they want to actually get paid, and backloading our deal just makes our offer less competitive.

I think 5mill is more realistic, unless that option bonus is like, 20mill or something stupid.

You were wrong here too. Haynesworth signed for 7.

[That Guy]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

You were wrong here too. Haynesworth signed for 7.

this was about the hall deal, which was 6 years not 7, unless you think haynesworth is going to be 32 in 6 years.

seriously, what's the deal?