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View Poll Results: Your thoughts on the acquisition of Albert Haynesworth?
Love it, worth the money 65 22.97%
Love the player, hate the money 158 55.83%
Hate the player and the money 19 6.71%
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Old 02-27-2009, 11:04 AM   #1
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Really? We could have signed all those players for the price of Hall and Haynesworth?

Well let's suppose we magically were able to do that. Would such sweeping changes make sense? And I guess they'd all start right? So Bodden and Bly (I'm going to guess you meant Leigh Bodden, not Anquan Boldin) start and Rogers becomes the nickel? Crowell and Scott start and McIntosh is benched? Canty starts and who sits? Rabach and Kendall to the bench? I'll admit that's some great talent on the bench

But what about the fact that maybe some (if not most) of those players want to play elsewhere or may not even be the best fits for us. What is Dre Bly going to offer us really at this stage of his career?

As for the folks the Redskins laid off, it sucks but it happens all around the league and all over the country. Colts laid people off, Browns laid people off, Pats laid people off...
You start Rogers and Bodden (Don't have to sign Bly, it was an example of how money could have been spent) Crowell, Scott and Fletcher (McIntosh is the backup due to a bad year and his knees) Canty replaces Evans, Brown/Dockery replace Kendall (again I used one of these players as what we could have gotten for 154M)
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Old 02-27-2009, 11:18 AM   #2
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You start Rogers and Bodden (Don't have to sign Bly, it was an example of how money could have been spent) Crowell, Scott and Fletcher (McIntosh is the backup due to a bad year and his knees) Canty replaces Evans, Brown/Dockery replace Kendall (again I used one of these players as what we could have gotten for 154M)
You should have used the word "or" instead of "and" in your original post
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Old 02-27-2009, 11:18 AM   #3
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Agreed! We could have signed Dockery, Brown, Canty, Crowell, Bart Scott, Bolden and Dre Bly for the price they gave this 2. I'm disappointed, if one of those players gets hurt, then what? Eat the money? What about those folks the Redskins laidoff? How do they feel when they see this?
Maybe on Madden. Not in the real world. Boldin isn't even a free agent.
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Maybe on Madden. Not in the real world. Boldin isn't even a free agent.
Did you read my previous post? I meant Leigh Bodden not Boldin.
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Did you read my previous post? I meant Leigh Bodden not Boldin.
You typed Boldin. People reading see that and have to respond to it's ridiculousness right there. There's an edit button, you know.
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Danny is still the same ol dumbass he always was. 154 mil for 2 players. One of whom can't make it through a season without injuries. What a boob. I can only hope that the economy crushes his finances and forces him to sell of the team. Time to break out the 'FireDanSnyder.com" t-shirt I guess.
Wow.

He's a dumbass for signing the top free agent available when all of the "experts" said our cap wouldn't permit it?

He's a financial, specifically a salary cap genius. Every year, he's able to turn what looks like cap hell into the capability to sign anyone we need or want. He does it with how contracts are written, plus every year we have some big names who are committed to the team and are willing to restructure to free up cap room. They wouldn't do that if they hated Snyder and weren't buying into the team's future.

That was just an ignorant statement.

I really hope we get to see Snyder operate without a salary cap. This should be fun and we'll definitely win a few more Lombardis.

People hate the Yankees because they can buy whatever player they wish, well, Snyder is just like Steinbrenner...a very successful man who worked to build a fortune. I may not like the Yanks, but if our Skins are one of the most valuable franchises in the world (were #1 before Dallas built their new stadium with a hole in the roof), I am happy about it.

With or without a salary cap, some teams like the Lions will always be bad because of ownership decisions. The Redskins have an owner who has not only become a better owner football-wise, but has all of the money in the league at his disposal because of his personal success.
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Old 02-27-2009, 11:02 AM   #7
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Wow.

He's a dumbass for signing the top free agent available when all of the "experts" said our cap wouldn't permit it?

He's a financial, specifically a salary cap genius. Every year, he's able to turn what looks like cap hell into the capability to sign anyone we need or want. He does it with how contracts are written, plus every year we have some big names who are committed to the team and are willing to restructure to free up cap room. They wouldn't do that if they hated Snyder and weren't buying into the team's future.

That was just an ignorant statement.

I really hope we get to see Snyder operate without a salary cap. This should be fun and we'll definitely win a few more Lombardis.

People hate the Yankees because they can buy whatever player they wish, well, Snyder is just like Steinbrenner...a very successful man who worked to build a fortune. I may not like the Yanks, but if our Skins are one of the most valuable franchises in the world (were #1 before Dallas built their new stadium with a hole in the roof), I am happy about it.

With or without a salary cap, some teams like the Lions will always be bad because of ownership decisions. The Redskins have an owner who has not only become a better owner football-wise, but has all of the money in the league at his disposal because of his personal success.
I agree with what all you said here. If the Skins hadn't signed him for this money, someone else would have. Plus, the Skins get a guy who will plug up the middle and cause havoc... don't think the Skins have had a guy like this since Dave Butz.

Like it or not, fans have to accept the fact that if you want some of the best players in the league, you gotta pay the big money. The teams that continously sign the average players for bargain prices never are competitive. Most of Vinny's moves in the off-season look smart and are good decisions even though a lot ended up not panning out. You just never know... most of free agent acquisitions by all the teams are not a sure thing.

My main concern is that it seems that a lot of these high price free agents never play to the level and energy they had before they got the big bucks. Lets hope Haynesworth is not like this.
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Wow.

He's a dumbass for signing the top free agent available when all of the "experts" said our cap wouldn't permit it?

He's a financial, specifically a salary cap genius. Every year, he's able to turn what looks like cap hell into the capability to sign anyone we need or want. He does it with how contracts are written, plus every year we have some big names who are committed to the team and are willing to restructure to free up cap room. They wouldn't do that if they hated Snyder and weren't buying into the team's future.

That was just an ignorant statement.
No, it was just an accurate statement. Backloading a contract to get around the cap has absolutely nothing to do with making a smart player investment. Haynesworth will be gone inside of three years, and I doubt he can even give us 14 games this year(assuming he does not blunder himself into a suspension). The leagues is filled with examples(look at the Cowboy's) of how buying the hot name fails and how building a deep team succeeds. Please Dan, Please... invest all of your money in Six Flags. Go for broke and ACHIEVE it!
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Wow.

He's a dumbass for signing the top free agent available when all of the "experts" said our cap wouldn't permit it?

He's a financial, specifically a salary cap genius. Every year, he's able to turn what looks like cap hell into the capability to sign anyone we need or want. He does it with how contracts are written, plus every year we have some big names who are committed to the team and are willing to restructure to free up cap room. They wouldn't do that if they hated Snyder and weren't buying into the team's future.

That was just an ignorant statement.

I really hope we get to see Snyder operate without a salary cap. This should be fun and we'll definitely win a few more Lombardis.

People hate the Yankees because they can buy whatever player they wish, well, Snyder is just like Steinbrenner...a very successful man who worked to build a fortune. I may not like the Yanks, but if our Skins are one of the most valuable franchises in the world (were #1 before Dallas built their new stadium with a hole in the roof), I am happy about it.

With or without a salary cap, some teams like the Lions will always be bad because of ownership decisions. The Redskins have an owner who has not only become a better owner football-wise, but has all of the money in the league at his disposal because of his personal success.
That's fine and dandy but every year we're up against the cap and we're never a SB contending team. Maybe they ought to change the way they do business.
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Besides, how can a Cowboy-stomper NOT play for us?

He was born to be a Redskin. (yes, I do think that was a horrible move and he needed the 5-game suspension...I am joking)

He's grown up a lot since then, I don't recall any other incidents since then.
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Besides, how can a Cowboy-stomper NOT play for us?

He was born to be a Redskin. (yes, I do think that was a horrible move and he needed the 5-game suspension...I am joking)

He's grown up a lot since then, I don't recall any other incidents since then.
I saw an interview with AH and he stated that he regreted what he did and didn't want his kids to be subject to that kind of thing. Ever since then he has been staying out of trouble.
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I saw an interview with AH and he stated that he regreted what he did and didn't want his kids to be subject to that kind of thing. Ever since then he has been staying out of trouble.
Great to hear.

Hall didn't cause any problems last year either.

I know some Raiders fans and one of them told me "you don't want a part of Hall". But last year, he was more of a spark plug than a locker room menace for us. Oakland and the Vick-led Falcons were hardly upstanding locker rooms anyways, so I think he'll stick to football with us too, especially since he got paid.
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Great to hear.

Hall didn't cause any problems last year either.

I know some Raiders fans and one of them told me "you don't want a part of Hall". But last year, he was more of a spark plug than a locker room menace for us. Oakland and the Vick-led Falcons were hardly upstanding locker rooms anyways, so I think he'll stick to football with us too, especially since he got paid.
It's called I'm laying low to get the money, which he did. We'll see what he does next year, I'm hope I'm wrong.
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It's called I'm laying low to get the money, which he did. We'll see what he does next year, I'm hope I'm wrong.
Or it could be called growing up?
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It's called I'm laying low to get the money, which he did. We'll see what he does next year, I'm hope I'm wrong.
These guys are still young. This dude is a real talent, and in our system, he does something that Carlos Rogers in incapable of...getting picks.

Haynesworth fills a major need. We need a monster DT, and we got the best.

I am thankful we can afford this. I love it how people hate on Danny...I like him more and more every year. He just wants to win, and I realize that. VC is another story.
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