Seems like Cutler might be available.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I dont think theres any question that Cutler is a better QB than Campbell is at this point in thier careers. However, Cutler isn't that much better... atleast not enough to warrant giving up our first rounder, and thats exactly what it would take to get him.

At this point, we've already paid Campbell a 2M bonus - if we were going to get rid of him, we should have done it a few weeks ago. Jason Campbell is our starter in 2009. If he gets the job done, we can extend him, give him a high tender, or franchise him in 2010. If he doesnt (much more likely), we will simply let him walk and get a 3rd round comp pick for him in 2011.

I was a proponent of trading Campbell earlier in the offseason, but at this point he's definitely going to be our starter this year (not that there was really ever any doubt about that to begin with). He's the best QB on our roster by far, and we need to hope he improves. If not, we can put Brennan in there half-way through the season and see if he has anything. No matter what happens, we'll have a clear picture of our QB situation (even if that picture is bleak), by the end of the season.

Nice to see the Colt Brennan talks are still alive and well on The Warpath.


I have full faith in Campbell that if given a competent O-Line, that he can be a great QB in this league for the Skins.

Doesn't matter who's taking the snaps with the lack of protection our line provided last season.

We need to keep him.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Buster

Nice to see the Colt Brennan talks are still alive and well on The Warpath.


I have full faith in Campbell that if given a competent O-Line, that he can be a great QB in this league for the Skins.

Doesn't matter who's taking the snaps with the lack of protection our line provided last season.

We need to keep him.

If Campbell appeared to be a failure half-way through the season, what reason would we have NOT to try Brennan?

[SmootSmack]

The Lions are the most common team being mentioned as a possible trade partner for the Broncos, but a lot of people here are buzzing about the Browns (which wouldn't make any sense, why would the Broncos trade him inside the conference?)

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The Lions are the most common team being mentioned as a possible trade partner for the Broncos, but a lot of people here are buzzing about the Browns (which wouldn't make any sense, why would the Broncos trade him inside the conference?)

For Brady Quinn maybe?

[FRPLG]

I am gonna base this post on the assumption that everything Cutler has said is basiaclly true. Only because Denver hasn't really contradicted it. First Cutler is a douche. This should have been handled internally. That being said I can't blame the guy for being pissed. First they fire his coach(I know "wah!!!") then they promise him they won't fire his OC and they do. Then they hire a guy who comes in and wants to dump his ass for another QB. Yes he should handle it internally but the Broncos should shut the hell up about him "being ateam leader". They aren't treaing him like a team leader. And the idiocy of the head coach big timing Cutler in the meeting takes the cake. As HC he needs to be cultivating relationships...not telling hi QB he would trade at any time if the deal was right. That's just dumb. I think they are all being wankers.

[FRPLG]

I wouldn't trade a player of Cutler's caliber within conference much less in division. Unless the deal was remarkable.

[Daseal]

I'd trade Campbell and one of our mid round picks for Cutler in a heart beat. The way this is going, that deal may get accepted. I really don't see Cutler as a baby in this situation. Cutler has been at the Broncos facility all off season working on the new play book, working out, etc. He reportedly wanted to work out the deal on conference calls, etc. To me, it looks like the Bellichek asshole has rubbed off on McDaniels. This article by Mort is pretty good: Meeting with Josh McDaniels, GM backfires, Jay Cutler asks Denver Broncos for trade - ESPN

[Big C]

i dont see jason campbell as any more than an adequate starting qb. if we could wheel and deal reasonably for cutler that would be fantastic. i dont see it happening but campbell is nothing special, he should have shown more by now. we will see this upcoming season though, because like i said i dont see us aquiring cutler.

[53Fan]

Seems he skipped a charity dinner where he was a scheduled guest. Link would'nt post. He's not making himself look any better.

[Daseal]

53Fan -- he still donated a large sum of money to that charity.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Daseal

53Fan -- he still donated a large sum of money to that charity.

I didn't realize that. They neglected to put that in the article I read. I guess he just didn't want to be there with people from Denvers FO. It's just a messed up situation.

[celts32]

This JLC post seems to fit in with this thread:

Jay Cutler a Redskin?
Jay Cutler is the flavor of the day/week/month, so my inbox is now stuffed with inquiries about him. (Covering the Redskins is the football equivalent of covering the Yankees or Red Wings, with every player examined and debated for a possible roster spot on a daily basis.)

So now it's Cutler, eh? Well, my take on this is that the dude wants to get paid, period, whether it's in Denver or Winnipeg. And given the state of panic that Broncos owner Pal Bowlen appears to be in over this whole saga, and the fact he rivals Daniel Snyder when it comes to spending, I don't see this kid leaving town. Just my hunch for now. If/when he gets that Ben Roethlisberger contract, he's suddenly going to be drenched in orange and talking about his dream of being the next Elway and spending his career in Denver.

And the bottom line is that the Broncos don't have to do anything if they don't want to. The kid has three years left on his rookie contract, and if he wants to hold out, so be it. Somehow I don't see it getting to that point.

As for the Redskins, well, they've certainly made no long-term commitment to Jason Campbell; forget about getting him a new contract. And Vinny Cerrato won't even call him the quarterback of the future. So would I rule out the Redskins sniffing around on a Pro Bowl QB? Heck, I never rule anything out.

But finding a way to stuff in a $15-million-a-year quarterback and the inevitable $45 million or more in guarantees when you didn't have the cap room to squeeze in Ray Willis would be something. And, again, it's not like the Skins have any more significant restructuring candidates sitting around the locker room or high-salaried veterans they can just jettison.

It would take a bounty to meet Denver's asking price, were this whole drama to reach that stage. We're talking multiple first-round picks in all likelihood. And if Denver Coach Josh McDaniels is telling the truth about not wanting picks for Cutler in any hypothetical, and instead wanting players, that pretty much takes the Skins out of the running.

There are far too few true potential franchise QBs in the league, let alone young ones, to let them get away. You don't see guys who have put up Cutler's numbers being traded very often, and had he gone, it would have only been for another young QB whom McDaniels obviously believes is a budding superstar (Matt Cassel).

A lot of Redskins fans are suggesting the team simply package Jason Campbell for Cutler, but that seems farfetched. McDaniels made it pretty clear Cassel was his guy, and I think he clearly wants someone he can mold. JC has already been through a career's worth of system and coordinator changes. That's not exactly a blank slate.

[GMScud]

That's a solid post by JLC. We can bounce hypotheticals around all we want, but there is no way in hell Cutler will be a Redskin.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by GMScud

That's a solid post by JLC. We can bounce hypotheticals around all we want, but there is no way in hell Cutler will be a Redskin.

JLC's not really the bastion of insider knowledge or insight. Remember he's the one who virtually swore up and down in every pre-free agency article that the Redskins wouldn't be in on Haynesworth. How did that work out for him.

Now I highly doubt the Redskins will be in on Cutler (thankfully) but he's pretty much the last guy I'd look to for insight to the Redskins thoughts and actions.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

JLC's not really the bastion of insider knowledge or insight. Remember he's the one who virtually swore up and down in every pre-free agency article that the Redskins wouldn't be in on Haynesworth. How did that work out for him.

Now I highly doubt the Redskins will be in on Cutler (thankfully) but he's pretty much the last guy I'd look to for insight to the Redskins thoughts and actions.

Believe me, I know. I don't really like JLC, nor do I find him very reliable. But I think he's right on with this one.