Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2009

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Over 13M in cap space AFTER signing Haynesworth? Thats simply amazing. Thats enough we could actually afford to take the cap hit if we wanted to cut or trade some players.

[los panda]

unless they have big plans, i don't understand why they cut jason taylor as well.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by los panda

unless they have big plans, i don't understand why they cut jason taylor as well.

There are still some holes to fill, mainly at LB, RT, and possibly a punter.

[nyredskinsfan]

Originally Posted by los panda

unless they have big plans, i don't understand why they cut jason taylor as well.

Because he didn't want to work out, so he doen't have his heart in the game. Read, Cooley's blog. Bill Parcels knew something about Taylor. I for one leaped pretty high when he was signed last year after we lost Daniels and still give credit to Snyder and Co. for picking him up. His heart's not into it so he has to go. BYE BYE

[BigHairedAristocrat]

I'm a bit confused by something. According to the information on this site, the Redskins are 12-13M under the cap.

However, this mornings RedskinsInsider blog had this to say,

Does T.O. Make Sense for Skins? - Redskins Insider

There's also the cap issue. We're still waiting to hear from league sources about the Redskins' exact cap number, but Cerrato recently said the team only has a little flexibility to meet its remaining needs.

How can we have 12-13M in cap space, yet have "little flexibility"? It just doesnt make sense. Any thoughts?

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I'm a bit confused by something. According to the information on this site, the Redskins are 12-13M under the cap.

However, this mornings RedskinsInsider blog had this to say,

Does T.O. Make Sense for Skins? - Redskins Insider



How can we have 12-13M in cap space, yet have "little flexibility"? It just doesnt make sense. Any thoughts?

I second that question. Unless they think T.O. is going to command big money, which he won't and should not.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I second that question. Unless they think T.O. is going to command big money, which he won't and should not.

I can only think of two possibilities:

1) The cap information here is incorrect (its my understanding the cap gurus here never had the actual contract information and were basing their numbers on how the skins "normally" structure deals).

2) The skins have "ear-marked" a certain amount of cap space for other purposes.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I can only think of two possibilities:

1) The cap information here is incorrect (its my understanding the cap gurus here never had the actual contract information and were basing their numbers on how the skins "normally" structure deals).

2) The skins have "ear-marked" a certain amount of cap space for other purposes.

Blasphemy! :FIREdevil

One quick question to the cap gurus, you have Evans listed in your possible signings...since he signed with the 49ers are you guys assuming they'll pick up a DE at the same price?

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I'm a bit confused by something. According to the information on this site, the Redskins are 12-13M under the cap.

However, this mornings RedskinsInsider blog had this to say,

Does T.O. Make Sense for Skins? - Redskins Insider



How can we have 12-13M in cap space, yet have "little flexibility"? It just doesnt make sense. Any thoughts?

Fair question. It's likely because Vinny probably said "little flexibility" before they cut Jason Taylor. JLCs says "Cerrato recently said". It depends on how "recent" JLC's definition of recent is. If it was said before Taylor was cut, then it was true at the time. But now that he has been released, we have mad flexibility. And this makes sense, Vinny was trying to negotiate a restructure with Taylor and didn't expect him to balk at the workout bonus. He was thrown for a loop and then decided it was best to cut him.

When they released Taylor they went from having something like $3 million to having upwards of $11 million. That takes you from not much flexibility to lots of flexibility overnight.

As for the cap information on this site, trust me it's right. I like to think my MBA in Finance wasn't for naught. CC is quite an accountant himself, I've examined his stuff thoroughly and it's right on from my perspective. Further, there's another cap source out there who's also a strong accountant, and CC's numbers tie out to his.

We have to use estimates from time to time to develop cap hits, this is done when we don't have accurate sources for contract info. But those estimates are always in the ballpark. At least close enough to say with certainty that after releasing Jason Taylor the Skins have plenty of flexibility.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Fair question. It's likely because Vinny probably said "little flexibility" before they cut Jason Taylor. JLCs says "Cerrato recently said". It depends on how "recent" JLC's definition of recent is. If it was said before Taylor was cut, then it was true at the time. But now that he has been released, we have mad flexibility. And this makes sense, Vinny was trying to negotiate a restructure with Taylor and didn't expect him to balk at the workout bonus. He was thrown for a loop and then decided it was best to cut him.

When they released Taylor they went from having something like $3 million to having upwards of $11 million. That takes you from not much flexibility to lots of flexibility overnight.

As for the cap information on this site, trust me it's right. I like to think my MBA in Finance wasn't for naught. CC is quite an accountant himself, I've examined his stuff thoroughly and it's right on from my perspective. Further, there's another cap source out there who's also a strong accountant, and CC's numbers tie out to his.

We have to use estimates from time to time to develop cap hits, this is done when we don't have accurate sources for contract info. But those estimates are always in the ballpark. At least close enough to say with certainty that after releasing Jason Taylor the Skins have plenty of flexibility.

Thanks for the response. For what its worth, the Times reported today that we have 6M in cap room. That number doesnt seem like it would fit a pre- or post- cut of JT analysis based on the numbers you've been working with as starting points.

Willis the first free agent to visit Redskins - Redskins 360 - Washington Redskins Blog - The Washington Times

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Thanks for the response. For what its worth, the Times reported today that we have 6M in cap room. That number doesnt seem like it would fit a pre- or post- cut of JT analysis based on the numbers you've been working with as starting points.

Willis the first free agent to visit Redskins - Redskins 360 - Washington Redskins Blog - The Washington Times

Depending on the source the cap room varies greatly, but we're usually pretty close to the real number. I honestly don't know where the WT gets their info but $6M makes no sense at all. That would mean we were in the red for $2M before releasing Taylor.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Thanks for the response. For what its worth, the Times reported today that we have 6M in cap room. That number doesnt seem like it would fit a pre- or post- cut of JT analysis based on the numbers you've been working with as starting points.

Willis the first free agent to visit Redskins - Redskins 360 - Washington Redskins Blog - The Washington Times

Not to be arrogant, but $6M is flat out wrong. If you choose to believe in that number, be my guest. Not sure what else I can say.