Munching the Mocks: Andre Smith now leads for Redskins

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Look closer at the cap spreadsheet... trading/cutting Jansen now will cost almost $3 mill whereas keeping him as a backup this year, preferably at G/C, and cutting him next year will save over $2 mill. He's not going anywhere. Similar sitz w/ Betts but only about a $1 mill loss vs gain in '10. If we get another pick this year it probably comes from the tenders we placed on Golston and Monty, which is the smartest way to go.

... btw I'm starting to think all top four OTs will be gone by 13. A. Smith is probably gonna rise in value again, but also consider there are teams, KC as an example, that won't need the services of a rookie QB as we move closer to the draft. Basically I expect the QBs to fall in the draft order and the safer picks, OL and DL, to rise. I think the scenario then is we'll still have a shot at Rey Maualuga, unless Denver grabs him, but he is probably the last player available worth the 13th overall. And for those who automatically think "trade-down" keep in mind few teams will want to trade down if none of these guys are available.

So who do you think we'll get?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

So who do you think we'll get?

Well GTripp thinks we're getting Suggs in a trade that will cost us 1st round picks in '09 and '10. (I guess using him as a LDE).

I wanted Suggs bad for SLB... not really sure how great he'd be at LDE.

I don't know what the hell we're doing... i probably need to eat some ice cream and go to bed.

Where u been btw... haven't seen any elderly abuse recently.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Well GTripp thinks we're getting Suggs in a trade that will cost us 1st round picks in '09 and '10. (I guess using him as a LDE).

I wanted Suggs bad for SLB... not really sure how great he'd be at LDE.

I don't know what the hell we're doing... i probably need to eat some ice cream and go to bed.

Where u been btw... haven't seen any elderly abuse recently.

Ha, I don't think that's actually being considered. I just pointed out that in the way my mock drafts are coming out, the Redskins aren't going to have the available talent they want when they pick, so we could be looking at Cushing or someone at No. 13.

I'm saying that I personally would do a poison pill deal with Suggs. Hate to give up the draft picks, but Suggs is so young, he's basically a draft pick anyway.

Ice cream sounds like a great idea!

[44ever]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Ha, I don't think that's actually being considered. I just pointed out that in the way my mock drafts are coming out, the Redskins aren't going to have the available talent they want when they pick, so we could be looking at Cushing or someone at No. 13.

I'm saying that I personally would do a poison pill deal with Suggs. Hate to give up the draft picks, but Suggs is so young, he's basically a draft pick anyway.

Ice cream sounds like a great idea!

That makes so much sence its scary.
Im getting some ice cream.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Well GTripp thinks we're getting Suggs in a trade that will cost us 1st round picks in '09 and '10. (I guess using him as a LDE).

I wanted Suggs bad for SLB... not really sure how great he'd be at LDE.

I don't know what the hell we're doing... i probably need to eat some ice cream and go to bed.

Where u been btw... haven't seen any elderly abuse recently.

Crap I hope we don't do that. I'd love to have Suggs but not at the expense of draft picks when we've so many needs.

I see it this way. We only have two real needs now for the defense: a linebacker and a defensive end. Seeing how they didn't tender Evans they've probably got something cooking at the park.

The real need is the O-line. I think they've addressed some of our need with Dock coming back. If they don't or aren't able to trade down I think they will take Andre Smith if he falls to us. It would be overkill to get Rey, Orakpo, or Everret Brown to complete our defense when there is still much to be addressed on the right side O-line.

Randy is coming back from a surgery. Jansen and Heyer competing for RT? Yeah right! If anything they'll compete for back up jobs with a rookie if that. I can see Heyer coming in for pass blocking and Jansen subing for the run but they need a stud at RT. I'd like to have J.Smith but his stock is rising. I think they should get the best T in the draft. Although I'd like to get Mack it makes more sense for a T if no one wants to trade down.

I had some business I had to attend to but I was keeping track. I knew this blog would blow it's top when FA started. The big thing next is going to be the draft.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Crap I hope we don't do that. I'd love to have Suggs but not at the expense of draft picks when we've so many needs.

I see it this way. We only have two real nees now for the defense: a linebacker and a defensive end. Seeing how they didn't tender Evans they've probably got something cooking at the park.

The real need is the O-line. I think they've addressed some of our need with Dock coming back. If they don't or aren't able to trade down I think they will take Andre Smith if he falls to us. It would be overkill to get Rey or Everret Brown to complete our defense when there is still much to be addressed on the right side.

Randy is coming back from a surgery. Jansen and Heyer competing for RT? Yeah right! If anything they'll compete for Back up jobs with a rookie if that. I can see Heyer coming in for pass blocking and Jansen subing for the run but they need a stud at RT. I'd like to have J.Smith but his stock is rising. I think they should get the best T in the draft. Although I'd like to get Mack it makes more sense for a T if no one wants to trade down.

I had some business I had to attend to but I was keeping track. I knew this blog would blow it's top when FA started. The big thing next is going to be the draft.

Dude the question here is what we do if all top 4 OTs are gone and more importantly maybe what we're doing between now and draft day if the FO feels that is going to be the reality.

... my gut tells me Rey will be last really special talent left @ 13. I basically started to think we'd approach the draft this way by getting the best OT FA in Willis, load up on what DE talent we can, grab the damn punter everyone wants, and then we'd be well set to take Rey. Maybe it still happens this way i guess.

I ice cream is really good you guys... banana split

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Dude the question here is what we do if all top 4 OTs are gone and more importantly maybe what we're doing between now and draft day if the FO feels that is going to be the reality.

... my gut tells me Rey will be last really special talent left @ 13. I basically started to think we'd approach the draft this way by getting the best OT FA in Willis, load up on what DE talent we can, grab the damn punter everyone wants, and then we'd be well set to take Rey. Maybe it still happens this way i guess.

I ice cream is really good you guys... banana split

Oh I see. Willis at RT? Ok that's cool. Orakpo and E Brown are going to the best DEs we can get in the draft. Rey is good. But there are a lot of guys that are good but not at his caliber at 13.

To be honest I'd rather have Orakpo because he gives us flexibility to run different packages at DE and OLB. Add Haynesworth moving around to DE every once in awhile and that's some scary sh*t.

For me I'd rather trade down to get Mack and then Mathews, Britton, or Loadholt. I highly doubt Mathews or Britton would be available but Loadholt might be. Even if we do get Willis I still think our O-line needs some youth. Mack, Britton, or Loadholt would be good youth infections for the future.

If A.Smith is there get him. There are a lot of guys who have not had good showings in the past that have pulled through. Did you see the pic of Brady at the combine? I wouldn't draft him for a soccer team. I wonder what all of the supermodels he knocked up were thinking? Oh yeah, Cha-ching $$$$

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

Oh I see. Willis at RT? Ok that's cool. Orakpo and E Brown are going to the best DEs we can get in the draft. Rey is good. But there are a lot of guys that are good but not at his caliber at 13.

To be honest I'd rather have Orakpo because he gives us flexibility to run different packages at DE and OLB. Add Haynesworth moving around to DE every once in awhile and that's some scary sh*t.

For me I'd rather trade down to get Mack and then Mathews, Britton, or Loadholt. I highly doubt Mathews or Britton would be available but Loadholt might be. Even if we do get Willis I still think our O-line needs some youth. Mack, Britton, or Loadholt would be good youth infections for the future.

If A.Smith is there get him. There are a lot of guys who have not had good showings in the past that have pulled through. Did you see the pic of Brady at the combine? I wouldn't draft him for a soccer team. I wonder what all of the supermodels he knocked up were thinking? Oh yeah, Cha-ching $$$$

Just a week ago, I wanted to pass on Orakpo because he was too similar to Andre Carter.

Now I look at our DE situation, and see zero established depth, so Orakpo looks pretty nice if available.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Just a week ago, I wanted to pass on Orakpo because he was too similar to Andre Carter.

Now I look at our DE situation, and see zero established depth, so Orakpo looks pretty nice if available.

They've got something cooking. They can't let Taylor and Evans go and not have people they're looking at to replace them. Jackson, Montgomery, Golston, Wilson? Those guys are depth.
No, they must have some guys they're looking at getting in the draft. It has to be there because there isn't anyone else in FA that's better than Evans.