Cooley comments on Jason Taylor

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by irish

Vinny & Co. never learn their lesson just look at this offseason. The Skins are back to their free spending ways for players I am afraid at the end of the day wont make much of a difference. I'd have rather had them get 4 $20 mil lineman instead of 1 for $100mil. As long as DS & Vinny are in charge this team will continue to rule the off season and be also-rans once the season starts.

The team has gotten rid of older players (Washington, Springs, possibly Kendall) and brought young players (Haynesworth, Dock, adn Hall). The old Skins would have given Jason Taylor a new fat contract last year, and this year they would have overpaid for TJ Housh this year. Not to mention that the team is building through the draft (3 young receivers last year, and the possibility of a stud o-lineman this year). While making a splash by signing Haynesworth is very Snyderesque, I think they are slowly learning.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

The team has gotten rid of older players (Washington, Springs, possibly Kendall) and brought young players (Haynesworth, Dock, adn Hall). The old Skins would have given Jason Taylor a new fat contract last year, and this year they would have overpaid for TJ Housh this year. Not to mention that the team is building through the draft (3 young receivers last year, and the possibility of a stud o-lineman this year). While making a splash by signing Haynesworth is very Snyderesque, I think they are slowly learning.

You know, that's a good point. If we would have seen Ray Lewis, Housh and a 3 year extension for Springs and Taylor then I could definitely sign off on 'same old Redskins' but like John Clayton said, since when is signing the best defensive lineman in the league a bad thing? There's a lot of prejudice when it comes to free agency that we buy into. I'm not trying to be a Snyderatto apologist but just because we spent a lot of $ (2 players with Redskins pedigree no less) doesn't equate to same old same old.

[terpsez11]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

You know, that's a good point. If we would have seen Ray Lewis, Housh and a 3 year extension for Springs and Taylor then I could definitely sign off on 'same old Redskins' but like John Clayton said, since when is signing the best defensive lineman in the league a bad thing? There's a lot of prejudice when it comes to free agency that we buy into. I'm not trying to be a Snyderatto apologist but just because we spent a lot of $ (2 players with Redskins pedigree no less) doesn't equate to same old same old.

good post

apologist...that is something I have never understood..

why people who get excited about the buzz of being a fan of a team..that actually tries to win it all..that they should be monolithic? Free Agency is a blast in the middle of the stinking winter

I dig what Snyder does to get attention and make the team better..there's no place where I need to apologize for that..no other team.. their fans.. or journalist I need to explain that to

[irish]

Originally Posted by terpsez11

good post

apologist...that is something I have never understood..

why people who get excited about the buzz of being a fan of a team..that actually tries to win it all..that they should be monolithic? Free Agency is a blast in the middle of the stinking winter

I dig what Snyder does to get attention and make the team better..there's no place where I need to apologize for that..no other team.. their fans.. or journalist I need to explain that to

I guess one could argue if what DS is doing really makes the team better. IMO it doesnt since signing big $ FAs hasnt gotten the team anywhere.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

You know, that's a good point. If we would have seen Ray Lewis, Housh and a 3 year extension for Springs and Taylor then I could definitely sign off on 'same old Redskins' but like John Clayton said, since when is signing the best defensive lineman in the league a bad thing? There's a lot of prejudice when it comes to free agency that we buy into. I'm not trying to be a Snyderatto apologist but just because we spent a lot of $ (2 players with Redskins pedigree no less) doesn't equate to same old same old.

It's not a bad thing if there isn't going to be a salary cap. But if there is one then I'm not paying a DT 12 mil a year. One DT doesn't impact a game the way a QB does and he's getting paid Tom Brady money.

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

You know, that's a good point. If we would have seen Ray Lewis, Housh and a 3 year extension for Springs and Taylor then I could definitely sign off on 'same old Redskins' but like John Clayton said, since when is signing the best defensive lineman in the league a bad thing? There's a lot of prejudice when it comes to free agency that we buy into. I'm not trying to be a Snyderatto apologist but just because we spent a lot of $ (2 players with Redskins pedigree no less) doesn't equate to same old same old.

Very well said. The issue in the past was a) trading draft picks for mediocre/ washed up players and b) signing mediocre/washed up players who didn't improve the team. Indeed, a lot of these high profile moves famously and disastrously flopped. But that doesn't mean there is something inherently wrong with signing big name free agents, it just means you have to sign the right ones. People seem to forget about the 07 Patriots trading 3 draft picks for wide receivers including a famous malcontent, overpaying another underachieving receiver, and breaking the bank on Adalius Thomas...and proceeding to go 16-0! My point being that, as obvious as it sounds, signing good players makes your team better! Signing bad players doesn't! And does anyone really not think Haynesworth is going to be good?

Interestingly it was the Jason Taylor trade that epitomized the "old-Skins" and yet that move didn't prompt nearly the media vitriol that this year's splurge has.