PFT rumor: TITANS TO PURSUE TAMPERING CHARGES AGAINST REDSKINS?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Lotus

You are correct that the dinner conversation alone will result in nothing. The Combine conversations likely are moot as well.

However, if VC or DS called Haynesworth before the opening bell of free agency, phone records will show this and things could get ugly.

But as far as I have heard no one is even alleging this. (Remember that the opening bell is 12:01 ET, or 11:01pm in Tennessee.) Do you have a story or link that says they did?

[SkinzzFan]

Seems to me you can talk, tamper, fidget, swindle, persuade, wine and dine all you want and it won't matter. The only words that matter (no matter WHEN they are said) are the number of years, total salary, signing bonus, etc. I don't care how much you talk prior to being able to sign someone...the agents will find the deal that best fits the player. Whether it's a guy looking to get paid or a guy looking for his best chance at a Championship. Albert Haynesworth had a list of terms and contract criteria that his agent had to work with when finding a new deal. The bottom line is whoever gave them that deal was getting his services. The rest of this is sour grapes on the part of the Titans. They had plenty of opportunity PRIOR to the opening of free agency to negotiate a deal where they could have kept him off the market. Dan Snyder made it work (with salary cap magic) and the Titans could have as well.

Thank you and have a nice day!

HAIL!!

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by SkinzzFan

Seems to me you can talk, tamper, fidget, swindle, persuade, wine and dine all you want and it won't matter. The only words that matter (no matter WHEN they are said) are the number of years, total salary, signing bonus, etc. I don't care how much you talk prior to being able to sign someone...the agents will find the deal that best fits the player. Whether it's a guy looking to get paid or a guy looking for his best chance at a Championship. Albert Haynesworth had a list of terms and contract criteria that his agent had to work with when finding a new deal. The bottom line is whoever gave them that deal was getting his services. The rest of this is sour grapes on the part of the Titans. They had plenty of opportunity PRIOR to the opening of free agency to negotiate a deal where they could have kept him off the market. Dan Snyder made it work (with salary cap magic) and the Titans could have as well.

Thank you and have a nice day!

HAIL!!

I totally agree. Also how do we not know that the agent requested dinner with DS? How do we not know the agent brought up the terms and conditions? It's only tampering if the Skins or representative for the team ie; DS contacted the agent and spoke about details in regards to a contract. If the Skins are going to get it then I think Drew Rosenhause(sp) should be fined or told not to deal contracts also cause he shopped 3 players prior to Free Agency.

[jdlea]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I totally agree. Also how do we not know that the agent requested dinner with DS? How do we not know the agent brought up the terms and conditions? It's only tampering if the Skins or representative for the team ie; DS contacted the agent and spoke about details in regards to a contract. If the Skins are going to get it then I think Drew Rosenhause(sp) should be fined or told not to deal contracts also cause he shopped 3 players prior to Free Agency.

Good point; Rosenhaus did send out a league-wide email saying that Plax, Chad Ocho Cinco and Anquan Boldin, who are all under contract with teams, were available for trades.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

But as far as I have heard no one is even alleging this. (Remember that the opening bell is 12:01 ET, or 11:01pm in Tennessee.) Do you have a story or link that says they did?

No I don't. I'm just saying that other evidence (including Rock's mouth) is speculative, but if premature phone records do surface, that would be damning.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Lotus

No I don't. I'm just saying that other evidence (including Rock's mouth) is speculative, but if premature phone records do surface, that would be damning.

I heard Rock that morning on the radio and did a double take. Listening to it again, the pronouns get all jumbled, and I am sure it can't be held as "proof".
If a video of DS handing AH 1,000,000 in cash in a dark alley, while Vinny stands look out, and gauging street walkers on their WR or ninja skills, that would be pretty damning too!