Current Redskins Salary Cap Status - 2009

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by MrJL

Could the Redskins rework some of the current contracts, pushing the money to the uncapped year if the contract isn't extended? What if they added a year to say Clinton Portis' contract with a relatively low salary with him having a void option?

Money can only be prorated through, I believe 2012. So any player whose contract already extends past that date can't get any money pushed into future years, at least via extension.

There's pretty much no place left to go to free up cap space. There's Rabach, and there's Thrash. Either could be released (or extended, in theory) to lower their 2009 cap number. Santana I believe is another option, but the team seems to be specifically avoiding guarenteeing any more money to him. Simply put, if Kelly or Thomas breaks out as a top target this year, Moss is gone at seasons end.

[MrJL]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Money can only be prorated through, I believe 2012. So any player whose contract already extends past that date can't get any money pushed into future years, at least via extension.

There's pretty much no place left to go to free up cap space. There's Rabach, and there's Thrash. Either could be released (or extended, in theory) to lower their 2009 cap number. Santana I believe is another option, but the team seems to be specifically avoiding guarenteeing any more money to him. Simply put, if Kelly or Thomas breaks out as a top target this year, Moss is gone at seasons end.

why release Moss? 2010 is uncapped. The point would be to free money for this year. Rogers is due to be a RFA next year, right? Couldn't we extend him if he'd lower this year's salary?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by MrJL

why release Moss? 2010 is uncapped. The point would be to free money for this year. Rogers is due to be a RFA next year, right? Couldn't we extend him if he'd lower this year's salary?

Rogers simply isn't making enough to save money when extending him.

If he got a Hall-type deal, it would raise his 2009 cap number by 1.0-1.5 million.

Cutting Moss would be more of a football decision, based on what he is/isn't needed for. He'll be here until a better option comes along. He won't be here as long as Randle El will be.

[GMScud]

Here are the pre-draft salary cap figures:

Amazing that the Eagles went deeper in the postseason than any NFC East team, yet they lead the league with $35M in pre-draft cap space. Meanwhile there are only 6 teams with less space than the Skins.


Arizona Cardinals: $1.29 million.
Atlanta Falcons: $23.67 million.
Baltimore Ravens: $968,000.
Buffalo Bills: $11.82 million.
Carolina Panthers: $2.69 million.
Chicago Bears: $20.96 million.
Cincinnati Bengals: $16.26 million.
Cleveland Browns: $20.27 million.
Dallas Cowboys: $10.35 million.
Denver Broncos: $16.3 million.
Detroit Lions: $10.72 million.
Green Bay Packers: $27.89 million.
Houston Texans: $10.75 million.
Indianapolis Colts: $7.10 million.
Jacksonville Jaguars: $16.94 million.
Kansas City Chiefs: $32.3 million.
Miami Dolphins: $13.19 million.
Minnesota Vikings: $17.32 million.
New England Patriots: $4.67 million.
New Orleans Saints: $4.29 million.
New York Giants: $4.37 million.
New York Jets: $12.62 million.
Oakland Raiders: $9.33 million.
Philadelphia Eagles: $37.44 million.
Pittsburgh Steelers: $440,000.
San Diego Chargers: $8.56 million.
San Francisco 49ers: $26.11 million.
Seattle Seahawks: $7.41 million.
St. Louis Rams: $10.67 million.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: $35.54 million.
Tennessee Titans: $13.05 million.
Washington Redskins: $5.96 million.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Rogers simply isn't making enough to save money when extending him.

If he got a Hall-type deal, it would raise his 2009 cap number by 1.0-1.5 million.

Cutting Moss would be more of a football decision, based on what he is/isn't needed for. He'll be here until a better option comes along. He won't be here as long as Randle El will be.

I thought that the Randle-El/Carter restructurings essentially turned their deals into one year contracts. Meaning they would be gone after this year if they don't produce.

If the FO keeps Randle-El (a never been and never will be) and drops Moss, they might as well hire Al Davis to run the team.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I thought that the Randle-El/Carter restructurings essentially turned their deals into one year contracts. Meaning they would be gone after this year if they don't produce.

If the FO keeps Randle-El (a never been and never will be) and drops Moss, they might as well hire Al Davis to run the team.

That's correct essentially, but there is a cost to releasing them none the less. Basically, if there's a cap next year, we can afford to let one, maybe two guys walk.

The thing was, if we really weren't considering keeping them, the cheapest way to separate from the contract would have been to not restructure at all, i.e. what we did with Moss. Randle El and Carter and Samuels...I expect them to pick up the options on all of them. If I had to guess one guy who is least likely to be here in 2010, I say Carter, if only because Orakpo should have his role in the defense by then.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

That's correct essentially, but there is a cost to releasing them none the less. Basically, if there's a cap next year, we can afford to let one, maybe two guys walk.

The thing was, if we really weren't considering keeping them, the cheapest way to separate from the contract would have been to not restructure at all, i.e. what we did with Moss. Randle El and Carter and Samuels...I expect them to pick up the options on all of them. If I had to guess one guy who is least likely to be here in 2010, I say Carter, if only because Orakpo should have his role in the defense by then.

I think you are right about Carter being a big if in 2011. That being said, purely from a football standpoint I think that the team would be better served keeping him over R-El. But a $7.25 option bonus is pretty steep to keep Carter around.

2010 better be uncapped or we are SCREWED. The defense will be Haynesworth, hall, orakpo and the draft picks. Although Brennan and Chase Daniels may be the Qbs! ha ha ha

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I think you are right about Carter being a big if in 2011. That being said, purely from a football standpoint I think that the team would be better served keeping him over R-El. But a $7.25 option bonus is pretty steep to keep Carter around.

2010 better be uncapped or we are SCREWED. The defense will be Haynesworth, hall, orakpo and the draft picks. Although Brennan and Chase Daniels may be the Qbs! ha ha ha

The FO was just really smart to keep all our picks for next year...like you said we're gonna need em.