Broncos to trade Cutler

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

JLC weighs in - apparently we're looking to move JC to another team for a 2nd rounder to acquire more picks to send to Denver. If true it would confirm SmootSmack's suspicion of a 3 team deal.

Redskins Insider - Redskins Trying to Land Cutler

We've been trying to get a 2nd rounder (damn you Jason Taylor!!) for a while now. I know for sure we've dangled Santana Moss out there, and I'm almost positive we dangled Rogers out there as well.

I'm not as down on Cutler as others are, so under the right circumstances, I'm not going to flip a lid if he came here. That said, I still don't think this is where he ultimately ends up (that's just my opinion though). But either way, I don't think Campbell is the future here. I don't agree with it, I think it will be a mistake to let him go. But, as much as Redskins coaches and execs may sing his praises in public, the truth is he has limited support (even from teammates) since even before he got hurt two seasons ago. His biggest supporter is now...the QB coach in Seattle.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

We've been trying to get a 2nd rounder (damn you Jason Taylor!!) for a while now. I know for sure we've dangled Santana Moss out there, and I'm almost positive we dangled Rogers out there as well.

I'm not as down on Cutler as others are, so under the right circumstances, I'm not going to flip a lid if he came here. That said, I still don't think this is where he ultimately ends up (that's just my opinion though). But either way, I don't think Campbell is the future here. I don't agree with it, I think it will be a mistake to let him go. But, as much as Redskins coaches and execs may sing his praises in public, the truth is he has limited support (even from teammates) since even before he got hurt two seasons ago. His biggest supporter is now...the QB coach in Seattle.

Could be the case yeah.. didn't hear much on the Moss offering.. I know it's a strong backfield division but when some say Moss is now the #1 receiver in the division, shame you prob couldn't get a 2nd rounder for him

kinda shows that we overvalue some of our players, though obviously we'd be worse off without them.. a lot of money tied up into position that haven't been strong points though

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Could be the case yeah.. didn't hear much on the Moss offering.. I know it's a strong backfield division but when some say Moss is now the #1 receiver in the division, shame you prob couldn't get a 2nd rounder for him

kinda shows that we overvalue some of our players, though obviously we'd be worse off without them.. a lot of money tied up into position that haven't been strong points though

And the Iggles got a 4th rounder for Greg Lewis, so I don't understand this.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

And the Iggles got a 4th rounder for Greg Lewis, so I don't understand this.

maybe we were just testing value in case we needed to clear more room for haynesworth or anything else potential

I think cutler's cap number is around 1 mil this year, so unless we decided to give him a new contract we could make that happen with a few small cuts, ones that are bound to happen eventually anyways

wonder what denver's cap hit would be

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

We've been trying to get a 2nd rounder (damn you Jason Taylor!!) for a while now. I know for sure we've dangled Santana Moss out there, and I'm almost positive we dangled Rogers out there as well.

I'm not as down on Cutler as others are, so under the right circumstances, I'm not going to flip a lid if he came here. That said, I still don't think this is where he ultimately ends up (that's just my opinion though). But either way, I don't think Campbell is the future here. I don't agree with it, I think it will be a mistake to let him go. But, as much as Redskins coaches and execs may sing his praises in public, the truth is he has limited support (even from teammates) since even before he got hurt two seasons ago. His biggest supporter is now...the QB coach in Seattle.

Huh?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Huh?

Bill Lazor

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Huh?

saying that now that he's been in zorn's system he'd be a candidate for landing the qb job in seattle i'm guessing

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

saying that now that he's been in zorn's system he'd be a candidate for landing the qb job in seattle i'm guessing

No, I was saying that Campbell's biggest supporter on the team the past couple of years is actually no longer on the team. He, Bill Lazor, is now in Seattle.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

No, I was saying that Campbell's biggest supporter on the team the past couple of years is actually no longer on the team. He, Bill Lazor, is now in Seattle.

damn me for not following the league strongly enough, should've been an easy pickup for me :o

i seriously need to up my game

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

We've been trying to get a 2nd rounder (damn you Jason Taylor!!) for a while now. I know for sure we've dangled Santana Moss out there, and I'm almost positive we dangled Rogers out there as well.

I'm not as down on Cutler as others are, so under the right circumstances, I'm not going to flip a lid if he came here. That said, I still don't think this is where he ultimately ends up (that's just my opinion though). But either way, I don't think Campbell is the future here. I don't agree with it, I think it will be a mistake to let him go. But, as much as Redskins coaches and execs may sing his praises in public, the truth is he has limited support (even from teammates) since even before he got hurt two seasons ago. His biggest supporter is now...the QB coach in Seattle.

Colt Brennan anyone?

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

We've been trying to get a 2nd rounder (damn you Jason Taylor!!) for a while now. I know for sure we've dangled Santana Moss out there, and I'm almost positive we dangled Rogers out there as well.

I'm not as down on Cutler as others are, so under the right circumstances, I'm not going to flip a lid if he came here. That said, I still don't think this is where he ultimately ends up (that's just my opinion though). But either way, I don't think Campbell is the future here. I don't agree with it, I think it will be a mistake to let him go. But, as much as Redskins coaches and execs may sing his praises in public, the truth is he has limited support (even from teammates) since even before he got hurt two seasons ago. His biggest supporter is now...the QB coach in Seattle.

So how do you know this is? Are you hearing this from reliable sources?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

So how do you know this is? Are you hearing this from reliable sources?

Yeah, I'd like to think they're pretty reliable. I'm not saying his teammates dislike him, or even that it's all his teammates. Just that the organization hasn't rallied around him the way you'd like to see. Some think it's Campbell's fault to an extent, because of the way he is. He's not the rah-rah, follow me to freedom kind of guy.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah, I'd like to think they're pretty reliable. I'm not saying his teammates dislike him, or even that it's all his teammates. Just that the organization hasn't rallied around him the way you'd like to see. Some think it's Campbell's fault to an extent, because of the way he is. He's not the rah-rah, follow me to freedom kind of guy.

He has his little quips about I know what I have, I know what I can do, just wait type things, but he's still soft-spoken so it doesn't come out Gladiator style.. more waiting in the wings style

I think that it plays more to his character and playing style to be how he is, because if he tried to come out as a hotshot he knows he'd be fooling himself and misleading the rest of us

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

He has his little quips about I know what I have, I know what I can do, just wait type things, but he's still soft-spoken so it doesn't come out Gladiator style.. more waiting in the wings style

I think that it plays more to his character and playing style to be how he is, because if he tried to come out as a hotshot he knows he'd be fooling himself and misleading the rest of us

Agreed...Campbell's leadership is exemplified when he stands tall in the pocket to deliver a strike even though a LB is inches away from crushing him cuz the line evaporated into thin air w/ "hut" and afterward Jason just picks himself up w/o complaining. I'll take his kind of leadership over the loudmouth any day of the week and twice on Sunday...but of course the quiet, non-flashy types don't create as much dollar value for the franchise as the other kind

[70Chip]

What's the latest? There are 10 pages of posts in the last three hours. I'm not reading all that. Someone summarize it for me.