Broncos to trade Cutler

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

We've been trying to get a 2nd rounder (damn you Jason Taylor!!) for a while now. I know for sure we've dangled Santana Moss out there, and I'm almost positive we dangled Rogers out there as well.

I'm not as down on Cutler as others are, so under the right circumstances, I'm not going to flip a lid if he came here. That said, I still don't think this is where he ultimately ends up (that's just my opinion though). But either way, I don't think Campbell is the future here. I don't agree with it, I think it will be a mistake to let him go. But, as much as Redskins coaches and execs may sing his praises in public, the truth is he has limited support (even from teammates) since even before he got hurt two seasons ago. His biggest supporter is now...the QB coach in Seattle.

That's the key to whole thing right there. I've been saying it since day one of this fiasco. Cutler for Campbell straight up is a no brainer. But that's obviously never happening. It's all about how much we give up. In this case upgrading the QB position doesn't necessarily equate to upgrading the Redskins as a whole. And improving the TEAM (not wearing blinders and pigeon-holing all kinds of needs for one guy), should be the overall focus at all times.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

That's the key to whole thing right there. I've been saying it since day one of this fiasco. Cutler for Campbell straight up is a no brainer. But that's obviously never happening. It's all about how much we give up. In this case upgrading the QB position doesn't necessarily equate to upgrading the Redskins as a whole. And improving the TEAM (not wearing blinders and pigeon-holing all kinds of needs for one guy), should be the overall focus at all times.

Well, as I understand it, if Campbell does end up in Denver it won't be because they wanted him but because we forced him on them

What the Redskins are reportedly proposing is not earth shattering though.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well, as I understand it, if Campbell does end up in Denver it won't be because they wanted him but because we forced him on them

What the Redskins are reportedly proposing is not earth shattering though.

Which is...???

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Which is...???

thats what im wondering. i havent heard any semi-verifiable reports of what were offering.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Which is...???

Um let's see. I think what I heard (who heard it from a friend who heard it from friend who heard it from another you been messin' around...you take it on the run baby!!!) was Campbell, the 13th, and a 2nd or 3rd in 2010 for Cutler and their 3rd rounder (just before we pick) in 2009. But, I don't think the Broncos really want Campbell or draft picks for that matter. Golston or Montgomery could be appealing to them though

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Um let's see. I think what I heard (who heard it from a friend who heard it from friend who heard it from another you been messin' around...you take it on the run baby!!!) was Campbell, the 13th, and a 2nd or 3rd in 2010 for Cutler and their 3rd rounder (just before we pick) in 2009. But, I don't think the Broncos really want Campbell or draft picks for that matter. Golston or Montgomery could be appealing to them though

So... basically we take it right up a wazzoo. And why wouldn't they want picks or Campbell.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by The Goat

So... basically we take it right up a wazzoo. And why wouldn't they want picks or Campbell.

Sorry forgot to add another late (like 5th or 6th round) pick for us. Don't exactly know why they don't want picks. And I guess Coach Doogie isn't that big on Campbell

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Sorry forgot to add another late (like 5th or 6th round) pick for us. Don't exactly know why they don't want picks. And I guess Coach Doogie isn't that big on Campbell

Hmm, maybe we should dangle Golston or Monty to get one of those picks they don't want. LOL.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Sorry forgot to add another late (like 5th or 6th round) pick for us. Don't exactly know why they don't want picks. And I guess Coach Doogie isn't that big on Campbell

What's the time-line here sir...hours, days or weeks?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Um let's see. I think what I heard (who heard it from a friend who heard it from friend who heard it from another you been messin' around...you take it on the run baby!!!) was Campbell, the 13th, and a 2nd or 3rd in 2010 for Cutler and their 3rd rounder (just before we pick) in 2009. But, I don't think the Broncos really want Campbell or draft picks for that matter. Golston or Montgomery could be appealing to them though

In which case, as you said earlier, a 3rd team will pretty much have to be involved for it to go down. I wonder if Chicago or Tampa would like the idea of Campbell?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by GMScud

In which case, as you said earlier, a 3rd team will pretty much have to be involved for it to go down. I wonder if Chicago or Tampa would like the idea of Campbell?

Ive been saying for months that Chicago (along with Tennessee and Minnesota) would be ideal destinations for Campbell. Not too familiar with Tampa Bay. Since theyre considered "finalists" in the bidding for Cutler, i doubt they would be willing to be part of a 3-way trade where they got Campbell.

Also, Smoots speculated/rumored trade of a 1st, Campbell and 2010 2nd/3rd for Cutler and their 2009 3rd rounder wouldnt be a bad trade for us if the reports about Cutlers alcohol problem were false.

Cutler would be a great franchise QB in the WCO if healthy... getting him that cheap (again, ignoring his alcohol concerns) would be a steal on our part. Franchise QBs are worth far more than what we'd be giving up. If Cutler can manage his diabetes responsibly, its worth taking the hit (of essentially just a first rounder this year) to have a position of perpetual instability locked up for the next decade.

Again, it all comes down to Cutlers management of his diabetes in my book. If he's being responsible with his personal health, then the alleged deal would be well worth it. If he's not, then he's not even worth a 2010 3rd rounder.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Um let's see. I think what I heard (who heard it from a friend who heard it from friend who heard it from another you been messin' around...you take it on the run baby!!!) was Campbell, the 13th, and a 2nd or 3rd in 2010 for Cutler and their 3rd rounder (just before we pick) in 2009. But, I don't think the Broncos really want Campbell or draft picks for that matter. Golston or Montgomery could be appealing to them though

If Nolan stays around in Denver, they'll be switching to a 3-4 eventually.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well, as I understand it, if Campbell does end up in Denver it won't be because they wanted him but because we forced him on them

What the Redskins are reportedly proposing is not earth shattering though.

you're so vaaaague

[NM Redskin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What the Redskins are reportedly proposing is not earth shattering though.

So what the word on what were offering? JC and the 13th? I wouldn't mind JC and Betts for Cutler.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Well, as I understand it, if Campbell does end up in Denver it won't be because they wanted him but because we forced him on them

What the Redskins are reportedly proposing is not earth shattering though.

And that would be?