It's Over: Cutler Going to Chicago

[BigHairedAristocrat]

thank goodness for the bears.

any idea what our final offer was? I have a feeling we came within a few minutes of securing cutler

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

thank goodness for the bears.

any idea what our final offer was? I have a feeling we came within a few minutes of securing cutler

According to Peter King our offer really wasn't the issue, McDaniels simply preferred Orton to run his offense so once that was decided other offers really didn't matter.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

According to Peter King our offer really wasn't the issue, McDaniels simply preferred Orton to run his offense so once that was decided other offers really didn't matter.

Orton better then Campbell, ok if he says so. At least McDaniels saved us from shooting ourselves in the foot.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Orton better then Campbell, ok if he says so. At least McDaniels saved us from shooting ourselves in the foot.

It's all about what someone values. McDaniels thinks Orton is a better fit for his offense, he may not necessarily think Orton is a better overall player, just a better fit. Remember what started all of this was McDaniels wanting Cassell. Again, a better fit than Cutler, not necessarily the better player.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

It's all about what someone values. McDaniels thinks Orton is a better fit for his offense, he may not necessarily think Orton is a better overall player, just a better fit. Remember what started all of this was McDaniels wanting Cassell. Again, a better fit than Cutler, not necessarily the better player.

I hear you!

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

According to Peter King our offer really wasn't the issue, McDaniels simply preferred Orton to run his offense so once that was decided other offers really didn't matter.

Interesting. How should that make us feel about Campbell?

Josh McDaniels, who coached Tom Brady and Matt Cassel, thinks Orton is a better QB than Campbell.

The Skins called around, and no one would even give us a 2nd rounder for Campbell. Matt Schuabb was worth two 2nd rounders, for goodness sakes!

If professionals (owners, coaches, and GMs) who dont wear B&G glasses dont view Campbell as being better than Kyle Orton or worth a 2nd rounder, that tells us alot about the kind of QB we have.

That said, Campbell has displayed alot of class in all this. The unreasonable part of me is hoping he lights it up this year and tells Snyder to screw off when they try to sign him to an extension next year.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Interesting. How should that make us feel about Campbell?

Josh McDaniels, who coached Tom Brady and Matt Cassel, thinks Orton is a better QB than Campbell.

The Skins called around, and no one would even give us a 2nd rounder for Campbell. Matt Schuabb was worth two 2nd rounders, for goodness sakes!

If professionals (owners, coaches, and GMs) who dont wear B&G glasses dont view Campbell as being better than Kyle Orton or worth a 2nd rounder, that tells us alot about the kind of QB we have.

That said, Campbell has displayed alot of class in all this. The unreasonable part of me is hoping he lights it up this year and tells Snyder to screw off when they try to sign him to an extension next year.

I guess McDaniels also thinks Orton is better than Cutler using that logic.

I think it's just a matter of him thinking Orton is a better fit for his offense.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I guess McDaniels also thinks Orton is better than Cutler using that logic.

I think it's just a matter of him thinking Orton is a better fit for his offense.

ortons a horrible qb - he's not good for any system. if the excuse for campbell that he has had a bad offensive line is legit -no way anyone takes orton over campbell. ortons sucked it up behind a dominant line for years.

even if you hold to that argument, then how do you respond to the fact that no one thought campbell was worth a 2nd rounder?

campbells not that good. even his team mates in trying to defend him admitted that by saying the constant system changes were 'keeping him from being good.'

what's it going to take for people to realize campbell is not that good of a qb?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

ortons a horrible qb - he's not good for any system. if the excuse for campbell that he has had a bad offensive line is legit -no way anyone takes orton over campbell. ortons sucked it up behind a dominant line for years.

even if you hold to that argument, then how do you respond to the fact that no one thought campbell was worth a 2nd rounder?

campbells not that good. even his team mates in trying to defend him admitted that by saying the constant system changes were 'keeping him from being good.'

what's it going to take for people to realize campbell is not that good of a qb?

Ok so why did McDaniels want Orton then??

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Ok so why did McDaniels want Orton then??

because orton, as horrible as he is, is really a better, more teachable QB than campbell.

no matter what system he's in, campbell will always stare down his receivers, be afraid to look deep, not go through his reads, have a slow release, and hold on to the ball too long. he's got a great attitude but he's not franchise QB material.

the way I see it, we learned two things yesterday:

1. The Redskins don't want Jason Campbell.
2. Neither does anyone else.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

ortons a horrible qb - he's not good for any system. if the excuse for campbell that he has had a bad offensive line is legit -no way anyone takes orton over campbell. ortons sucked it up behind a dominant line for years.

even if you hold to that argument, then how do you respond to the fact that no one thought campbell was worth a 2nd rounder?

campbells not that good. even his team mates in trying to defend him admitted that by saying the constant system changes were 'keeping him from being good.'

what's it going to take for people to realize campbell is not that good of a qb?

He had a decent year last year.