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Old 04-02-2009, 07:58 PM   #1
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Re: It's Over: Cutler Going to Chicago

I didn't say he was going to be manning, but he is a top young qb and i doubt campbell is! Plus cutler had no running game last year and he still was a pro bowler.
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Old 04-02-2009, 08:03 PM   #2
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I didn't say he was going to be manning, but he is a top young qb and i doubt campbell is! Plus cutler had no running game last year and he still was a pro bowler.
Cutler had *fourth* best running game in the NFL last year, per Football Outsiders.

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Football analysis and NFL stats for the Moneyball era - Authors of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

No matter how you regard their work, you can't say his running game wasn't good. It was better than ours, in every way you could possibly look at it.

If you're saying he's a top young QB, I have to either 1) assume you ARE saying he's going to become what Manning is or 2) I have to point out to you that you're overestimating the limited difference between Campbell and Cutler.

Campbell will always be a tier below Manning. I'm pretty sure Cutler's not getting there either. They are both franchise type Quarterbacks, and usually, the best strategy is to play with what you've got.
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Old 04-02-2009, 08:12 PM   #3
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Cutler had *fourth* best running game in the NFL last year, per Football Outsiders.

FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Football analysis and NFL stats for the Moneyball era - Authors of Pro Football Prospectus 2008

No matter how you regard their work, you can't say his running game wasn't good. It was better than ours, in every way you could possibly look at it.

If you're saying he's a top young QB, I have to either 1) assume you ARE saying he's going to become what Manning is or 2) I have to point out to you that you're overestimating the limited difference between Campbell and Cutler.

Campbell will always be a tier below Manning. I'm pretty sure Cutler's not getting there either. They are both franchise type Quarterbacks, and usually, the best strategy is to play with what you've got.

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THEY HAD THE 12TH BEST ACCORDING TO NFL.COM (MAINLY BECAUSE CUTLER MAKES PLAYS WITH THAT ROCKET ARM LOL)

AND IF JC IS A "FRANCHISE" QB THEN WHY HAVN'T WE RESIGNED HIM TO A LONG TERM DEAL? THAT SHOWS YOU THAT THE TEAM DOESN'T TRUST HIM! SO I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT ABOUT JC AND HE HAS A GREAT YEAR BECAUSE HE AND THE OLINE WERE OUR OFFENSIVE PROBLEMS LAST YEAR AND WE ALL KNOW THAT!
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Old 04-02-2009, 08:17 PM   #4
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THEY HAD THE 12TH BEST ACCORDING TO NFL.COM (MAINLY BECAUSE CUTLER MAKES PLAYS WITH THAT ROCKET ARM LOL)

AND IF JC IS A "FRANCHISE" QB THEN WHY HAVN'T WE RESIGNED HIM TO A LONG TERM DEAL? THAT SHOWS YOU THAT THE TEAM DOESN'T TRUST HIM! SO I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT ABOUT JC AND HE HAS A GREAT YEAR BECAUSE HE AND THE OLINE WERE OUR OFFENSIVE PROBLEMS LAST YEAR AND WE ALL KNOW THAT!
No need to yell....... and not signing JC to a super longterm deal has been a very smart move by our FO. Its not that we do not trust him, just that he has yet to prove without a doubt he is capable of running our team. He finally has consistency in a coaching staff, and a reason to go over and beyond (a potential new contract). All that will happen remains to be seen, but we do not have any reason to abandon hope in Campbell.
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Old 04-02-2009, 08:19 PM   #5
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THEY HAD THE 12TH BEST ACCORDING TO NFL.COM (MAINLY BECAUSE CUTLER MAKES PLAYS WITH THAT ROCKET ARM LOL)

AND IF JC IS A "FRANCHISE" QB THEN WHY HAVN'T WE RESIGNED HIM TO A LONG TERM DEAL? THAT SHOWS YOU THAT THE TEAM DOESN'T TRUST HIM! SO I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT ABOUT JC AND HE HAS A GREAT YEAR BECAUSE HE AND THE OLINE WERE OUR OFFENSIVE PROBLEMS LAST YEAR AND WE ALL KNOW THAT!
That shows that Danny doesn't trust him. And we've all seen what a dimwit he is when it comes to football knowledge. The team definitely trusts him, and Zorn has had his back from day 1.

"We all know that" ??? Really? The O-line yes, Campbell? Not so much.
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Old 04-03-2009, 12:22 PM   #6
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Now watch Jason put up Pro Bowl numbers and I hope he sticks it to Danny and company with contract negotiations. Danny and Vinny act recklessly often like a child with a new toy.
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THEY HAD THE 12TH BEST ACCORDING TO NFL.COM (MAINLY BECAUSE CUTLER MAKES PLAYS WITH THAT ROCKET ARM LOL)

AND IF JC IS A "FRANCHISE" QB THEN WHY HAVN'T WE RESIGNED HIM TO A LONG TERM DEAL? THAT SHOWS YOU THAT THE TEAM DOESN'T TRUST HIM! SO I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT ABOUT JC AND HE HAS A GREAT YEAR BECAUSE HE AND THE OLINE WERE OUR OFFENSIVE PROBLEMS LAST YEAR AND WE ALL KNOW THAT!
We're a self hating team that values all players on other teams above our own players?

Seriously, there's no need to type in caps. If you want to be taken seriously, all you have to do is make sense when you post. It's not that hard.
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we're a self hating team that values all players on other teams above our own players?

Seriously, there's no need to type in caps. If you want to be taken seriously, all you have to do is make sense when you post. It's not that hard.
yea how bush league is that!!
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How come that didnt come out in caps? It totally ruined my joke.
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I didn't say he was going to be manning, but he is a top young qb and i doubt campbell is! Plus cutler had no running game last year and he still was a pro bowler.
Cutler also had a much better O-line, a better receiving corps with a pro-bowler who happens to be taller than 5'9", not to mention a defense that was so bad they were throwing like crazy to catch up in games.

I don't have the exact stats in front of me, but Campbell was sacked like 3x more than Cutler. I wonder what Jason's numbers and our record would have looked like if you flipped those stats.
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