Campbell: Meeting "Very Successful"

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

What a crock this whole thing turned out to be!

Jason Campbell should either be appointed Ambassador to North Korea because he is the greatest diplomat in America or he has to be the most naive football player in the NFL.

I cannot believe that Campbell didn't have his agent in that meeting! He must be out of his mind to go into that ridiculous meeting unrepresented. They tried to dump him, didn't they? They dropped the gauntlet. Campbell and his agent should have told management that it's on now.

As far as his agent is concerned, not being there borders on malpractice. Management could have promised Campbell any damn thing in that meeting and it means nothing! Campbell's agent should have gone into that meeting with a list of demands and any promises made by management should have been put on paper in the form of a legal agreement.

JC has them over a barrel, for goodness sake! Can't his stupid agent see that? Stupid, stupid, stupid!

Well, it could be sort naivete or just faith/confidence on JC17's part that his talent will shine in the 2nd year of Zorn's offense and everything will take care of itself...which really is the bottom line wouldn't u say bro? If the kid has the kind of year some of us genuinely expect him to have Jason knows all this muck is irrelevant.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Well, it could be sort naivete or just faith/confidence on JC17's part that his talent will shine in the 2nd year of Zorn's offense and everything will take care of itself...which really is the bottom line wouldn't u say bro? If the kid has the kind of year some of us genuinely expect him to have Jason knows all this muck is irrelevant.

No, I would not say that at all! What if Jason gets hurt? Then he's screwed.

Look, this is the NFL, not Pop Warner football. Players need to make sure they achieve financial security through football, if they can. His agent needs to look out for him now. If need be, his agent needs to protect him from himself.

At this point JC should know that he can't trust Snyder at all. If I were his agent, he would not be engaged in any football activity where he could be injured until I negotiated a new contract with a whole lot of guaranteed money for him. Snyder could then choose to either pay JC or to go into the season with Todd Collins as his starter. And you'd better believe that there would be a nasty media campaign waged by my side, if necessary.

[KLHJ2]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

What a crock this whole thing turned out to be!

Jason Campbell should either be appointed Ambassador to North Korea because he is the greatest diplomat in America or he has to be the most naive football player in the NFL.

I cannot believe that Campbell didn't have his agent in that meeting! He must be out of his mind to go into that ridiculous meeting unrepresented. They tried to dump him, didn't they? They dropped the gauntlet. Campbell and his agent should have told management that it's on now.

As far as his agent is concerned, not being there borders on malpractice. Management could have promised Campbell any damn thing in that meeting and it means nothing! Campbell's agent should have gone into that meeting with a list of demands and any promises made by management should have been put on paper in the form of a legal agreement.

JC has them over a barrel, for goodness sake! Can't his stupid agent see that? Stupid, stupid, stupid!

Campbell's agent is Joel Segal who also represents Laron Landry and Deangelo Hall. After he raped us during the Hall resigning I doubt that he would have had any leverage in the meeting if he had he attended.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Angry

Campbell's agent is Joel Segal who also represents Laron Landry and Deangelo Hall. After he raped us during the Hall resigning I doubt that he would have had any leverage in the meeting if he had he attended.

If were true, then JC would need a new agent. But I don't see how Hall's contract is relevant to JC's. They are entirely separate.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Angry

Campbell's agent is Joel Segal who also represents Laron Landry and Deangelo Hall. After he raped us during the Hall resigning I doubt that he would have had any leverage in the meeting if he had he attended.

Exactly. Not to mention JC is under contract this year and is an RFA after this season. Not sure what leverage KI is talking about. I do think it's safe to say Joel Segal knows a hair more about the business than KI or any of us. If he needed to be there he would have been. Just because Jason was unsuccessfully shopped in a trade doesn't give him any more leverage than if he wasn't.

Plus I doubt their meeting had anything to do with a contract. It sounds like it was more "this is what happened, this is how we feel about you, this is how we want to move forward at this point, what are you thoughts?" And they went from there.

Campbell has drawn national praise for his handling of this situation, and frankly I'm proud that he's our quarterback.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Exactly. Not to mention JC is under contract this year and is an RFA after this season. Not sure what leverage KI is talking about. I do think it's safe to say Joel Segal knows a hair more about the business than KI or any of us. If he needed to be there he would have been. Just because Jason was unsuccessfully shopped in a trade doesn't give him any more leverage than if he wasn't.

Plus I doubt their meeting had anything to do with a contract. It sounds like it was more "this is what happened, this is how we feel about you, this is how we want to move forward at this point, what are you thoughts?" And they went from there.

Campbell has drawn national praise for his handling of this situation, and frankly I'm proud that he's our quarterback.

And frankly I am too. I try not to say too much unless I feel strongly about it or I feel I'm right. I don't know if Campbell will ever be a great QB, but I know this, he doesn't deserve to be treated the way he's been treated by the fans. Campbell is not a bad QB yet he's treated like one by a lot of people. He deserves the chance to be in a system for more than one year to show what he can do. And I'm not talking about Saunders 700 page playbook that ended up being part what Saunders wanted and part what Gibbs wanted. I'm talking about a real system. I think he'll do well next year. If he doesn't, we don't resign him but he at least deserves the chance. If I was Campbell I probably would of been raising hell long time ago. "Will ya'll make up your mind what offense you want to run for crying out loud!" This is a case where I really hope the good guy wins. Some seem sure he's gonna fail, some seem sure he won't. I'd just like for him to have a clear cut chance to succeed. That's all any of us can ask for.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

What a crock this whole thing turned out to be!

Jason Campbell should either be appointed Ambassador to North Korea because he is the greatest diplomat in America or he has to be the most naive football player in the NFL.

I cannot believe that Campbell didn't have his agent in that meeting! He must be out of his mind to go into that ridiculous meeting unrepresented. They tried to dump him, didn't they? They dropped the gauntlet. Campbell and his agent should have told management that it's on now.

As far as his agent is concerned, not being there borders on malpractice. Management could have promised Campbell any damn thing in that meeting and it means nothing! Campbell's agent should have gone into that meeting with a list of demands and any promises made by management should have been put on paper in the form of a legal agreement.

JC has them over a barrel, for goodness sake! Can't his stupid agent see that? Stupid, stupid, stupid!

Yeah just what we need is our own Cutler situation.

Thankfully JC is more mature than that. He realizes it's business.

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Yeah just what we need is our own Cutler situation.

Thankfully JC is more mature than that. He realizes it's business.

Mature, my foot! Maturity is knowing that you need to provide for your own future. Maturity is knowing that you need to look out for your own interests.

It's business, alright. That's why JC needed representation in that meeting. If for no other reason, so that his agent could get a feel for what the Skins management's plans for JC are now that they failed to get Cutler.

I'm not looking at this purely as a fan. I'm also a human being who doesn't like the idea that another human being might be played for a fool just because he is decent.

Snyder created this situation. I were JC's agent I'd make Snyder pay to get out of it because that would be in my client's best interests.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Mature, my foot! Maturity is knowing that you need to provide for your own future. Maturity is knowing that you need to look out for your own interests.

It's business, alright. That's why JC needed representation in that meeting. If for no other reason, so that his agent could get a feel for what the Skins management's plans for JC are now that they failed to get Cutler.

I'm not looking at this purely as a fan. I'm also a human being who doesn't like the idea that another human being might be played for a fool just because he is decent.

Snyder created this situation. I were JC's agent I'd make Snyder pay to get out of it because that would be in my client's best interests.

Whatsyerdealman...

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Whatsyerdealman...

I had my say. I'm going to drop it now. Everyone else can go back to pretending that everything is going to be fine between JC and the Skins now that the Cutler trade didn't go down.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Mature, my foot! Maturity is knowing that you need to provide for your own future. Maturity is knowing that you need to look out for your own interests.

It's business, alright. That's why JC needed representation in that meeting. If for no other reason, so that his agent could get a feel for what the Skins management's plans for JC are now that they failed to get Cutler.

I'm not looking at this purely as a fan. I'm also a human being who doesn't like the idea that another human being might be played for a fool just because he is decent.

Snyder created this situation. I were JC's agent I'd make Snyder pay to get out of it because that would be in my client's best interests.

Once again, thankfully JC is handling this much better than Cutler did, and you as well it seems.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Once again, thankfully JC is handling this much better than Cutler did, and you as well it seems.

I agree Campbell has handled himself well, but in fairness he does not have the same options that Cutler had. Campbell's only realistic chance to start next season is right here...if he were to pull a cutler type power play he would likely end up on someone else's bench. And that's not a good place to be in a contract year. Campbell didn't just make the classy move...he made his only move.

[GusFrerotte]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Mature, my foot! Maturity is knowing that you need to provide for your own future. Maturity is knowing that you need to look out for your own interests.

It's business, alright. That's why JC needed representation in that meeting. If for no other reason, so that his agent could get a feel for what the Skins management's plans for JC are now that they failed to get Cutler.

I'm not looking at this purely as a fan. I'm also a human being who doesn't like the idea that another human being might be played for a fool just because he is decent.

Snyder created this situation. I were JC's agent I'd make Snyder pay to get out of it because that would be in my client's best interests.

Snyder isn't going to pay JC anything more until JC shows he is worth it!!!!!

[steveo395]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

Mature, my foot! Maturity is knowing that you need to provide for your own future. Maturity is knowing that you need to look out for your own interests.

It's business, alright. That's why JC needed representation in that meeting. If for no other reason, so that his agent could get a feel for what the Skins management's plans for JC are now that they failed to get Cutler.

I'm not looking at this purely as a fan. I'm also a human being who doesn't like the idea that another human being might be played for a fool just because he is decent.

Snyder created this situation. I were JC's agent I'd make Snyder pay to get out of it because that would be in my client's best interests.

Luckily Campbell is a lot more mature than Cutler. He knows if he plays well this year, he's going to get paid. Thats how it works. He didn't play well enough last year to warrant an early extension and I'm sure he knows that.

[Zerohero]

Originally Posted by KI Skins Fan

What a crock this whole thing turned out to be!

Jason Campbell should either be appointed Ambassador to North Korea because he is the greatest diplomat in America or he has to be the most naive football player in the NFL.

I cannot believe that Campbell didn't have his agent in that meeting! He must be out of his mind to go into that ridiculous meeting unrepresented. They tried to dump him, didn't they? They dropped the gauntlet. Campbell and his agent should have told management that it's on now.

As far as his agent is concerned, not being there borders on malpractice. Management could have promised Campbell any damn thing in that meeting and it means nothing! Campbell's agent should have gone into that meeting with a list of demands and any promises made by management should have been put on paper in the form of a legal agreement.

JC has them over a barrel, for goodness sake! Can't his stupid agent see that? Stupid, stupid, stupid!

Less agents the better imo. How does JC have them over the barrel? Supposedly Kyle Orton is more desirable then JC, though i personally wouldnt go that far. His only leverage will come from a stellar season this year, which we're all hoping for.