Dumb and Dumber, Vinny and Dan

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Daseal

The whole Cutler deal doesn’t make sense to me. Cutler was an upgrade. Cutler was available. Cutler’s price tag ended up being too high. The Redskins backed out and let another team fall on the sword. What’s the issue. Had the Broncos done what the Redskins did with Campbell, Cutler would have never been traded. Props to the FO for doing a great job with crowd control after that fiasco. On an unrelated rumor, NFL radio said the rumor was there was a 3 way trade, including WAS, CLE, and DEN. With CLE getting Cutler and Quinn ending up in DEN. Not sure what the skins were doing, perhaps picking up more draft picks? Or it could be a totally unfounded rumor – fact is, we’ll probably never know.

This problem is that, reportedly, it went past a passing interest. We were prepared to throw multiple first round picks at Jay Cutler. Which is unquestionably insane, given our current QB situation.

We will never know if Snyder pulled the offer, or simply was outbid, but the fact that we were even there is proof of a shallow understanding of why we lost 8 games last year. It's telling Jason Campbell that he is being held responsible for failures he wasn't responsible for. It's proof that we don't see a problem with buying high and selling low. It's proof of so many structural problems in management that we can't just sweep it under the rug and pretend it didn't happen.

The same deal happened last year with Chad Johnson. We ONLY seem to chase players that are overvalued by the market. That's one thing if you are a team that generally avoids trades and free agency, but for this team, it's a big problem. Regardless of how you or I view Snyder as an owner, you aren't taking this seriously enough in your evaluation of the situation.

We very nearly reduced ourselves to a single first day draft pick in the next two years. And for what? Two good-but-overhyped players in Taylor and Cutler. You can't claim patience as a defense. We're too impulsive.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

This problem is that, reportedly, it went past a passing interest. We were prepared to throw multiple first round picks at Jay Cutler. Which is unquestionably insane, given our current QB situation.

We will never know if Snyder pulled the offer, or simply was outbid, but the fact that we were even there is proof of a shallow understanding of why we lost 8 games last year. It's telling Jason Campbell that he is being held responsible for failures he wasn't responsible for. It's proof that we don't see a problem with buying high and selling low. It's proof of so many structural problems in management that we can't just sweep it under the rug and pretend it didn't happen.

The same deal happened last year with Chad Johnson. We ONLY seem to chase players that are overvalued by the market. That's one thing if you are a team that generally avoids trades and free agency, but for this team, it's a big problem. Regardless of how you or I view Snyder as an owner, you aren't taking this seriously enough in your evaluation of the situation.

We very nearly reduced ourselves to a single first day draft pick in the next two years. And for what? Two good-but-overhyped players in Taylor and Cutler. You can't claim patience as a defense. We're too impulsive.

One of the ESPN reporters was talking in depth on the trade to Chicago, and I found it interesting that he said that Chicago had thought they were out of the mix for about 3 hours, no texts, calls etc. Then Denver called them when the other team (they did not say us, and in fact made it sound like it might have been Cleveland) did not offer Denver what they wanted. If that is right then we pulled out on our own, and again I think it is a sign Danny at least saw some boundary he would not go over. Sorry no link or reference, I saw it right when I got home, and was kinda spacing with the TV on.

[WaldSkins]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

One of the ESPN reporters was talking in depth on the trade to Chicago, and I found it interesting that he said that Chicago had thought they were out of the mix for about 3 hours, no texts, calls etc. Then Denver called them when the other team (they did not say us, and in fact made it sound like it might have been Cleveland) did not offer Denver what they wanted. If that is right then we pulled out on our own, and again I think it is a sign Danny at least saw some boundary he would not go over. Sorry no link or reference, I saw it right when I got home, and was kinda spacing with the TV on.

I read that our offer was part of a three team deal that included Cleveland because Denver did not want Campbell. Apparently Denver was only interested in Orton and Quinn in return. When Cleveland backed out, there went Cutler to Da Bears.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by WaldSkins

I read that our offer was part of a three team deal that included Cleveland because Denver did not want Campbell. Apparently Denver was only interested in Orton and Quinn in return. When Cleveland backed out, there went Cutler to Da Bears.

Ok, but again we just don't know the specifics. Cleveland backed out why? We weren't willing to offer what they wanted. They changed their mind. For me the most logical reason is we weren't willing to part with some piece of the puzzle. But again we just can't know.