Mark Sanchez at 13th?

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

As always, you make excellent points.

My main point is that getting a franchise QB should be our organizations #1 concern. IF they think Campbell can be they guy, then they need to give him everything he needs to succeed. If they don't, and a guy they do beleive can be their franchise QB is within reach, then it makes sense to do whatever it takes (within reason) to get that guy.

Once a team gets "that guy," everything else tends to fall into place. Great QBs inspire everyone around them. It gives teams something solid to build around. It ensures consistancy. (Indy, New England, New York Giants, Steelers, etc dont need to change their offense around every couple years because they have the same QB and the system with that QB works).

This team has constantly been changing systems and coaches and quarterbacks for decades. We need stability. Getting a franchise QB is the #1 way to ensure long-term (10+years) stability.

I would have thought the best way would be to stop changing systems, coaches and quarterbacks.
Cowher was at Pitt for how long, how many qb's before Ben. Shanahan was at Denver for how long, how many qbs. Rather than putting a new player/coach in and creating "the new stability", lets let the people play and coach into a rhythm.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

I would have thought the best way would be to stop changing systems, coaches and quarterbacks.
Cowher was at Pitt for how long, how many qb's before Ben. Shanahan was at Denver for how long, how many qbs. Rather than putting a new player/coach in and creating "the new stability", lets let the people play and coach into a rhythm.

If we had kept Spurrier and Shane Matthews for 5 years, do you think we'd be any better off now?

The stability i speak of is something that can only be provided by a franchise QB.

The Steelers were not really that great under Cowher when they had near constant QB fluxuation. They didnt become annual superbowl contenders until they found their franchise QB.

If the skins think Jason Campbell is their franchise QB, then by all means, they should stick with him. If they dont, then they need to look at the QBs in this years draft and next years, determine which player is most likely to become a franchise QB, and then plan accordingly. If Sanchez is that guy, they need to get him and move Campbell this year. If not, they can give Campbell another chance and then draft one of the QBs next year. Either way, stability starts with a franchise QB.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

If we had kept Spurrier and Shane Matthews for 5 years, do you think we'd be any better off now?

The stability i speak of is something that can only be provided by a franchise QB.

The Steelers were not really that great under Cowher when they had near constant QB fluxuation. They didnt become annual superbowl contenders until they found their franchise QB.

If the skins think Jason Campbell is their franchise QB, then by all means, they should stick with him. If they dont, then they need to look at the QBs in this years draft and next years, determine which player is most likely to become a franchise QB, and then plan accordingly. If Sanchez is that guy, they need to get him and move Campbell this year. If not, they can give Campbell another chance and then draft one of the QBs next year. Either way, stability starts with a franchise QB.

That makes a lot of sense to me. Nice post.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

If we had kept Spurrier and Shane Matthews for 5 years, do you think we'd be any better off now?

The stability i speak of is something that can only be provided by a franchise QB.

The Steelers were not really that great under Cowher when they had near constant QB fluxuation. They didnt become annual superbowl contenders until they found their franchise QB.

If the skins think Jason Campbell is their franchise QB, then by all means, they should stick with him. If they dont, then they need to look at the QBs in this years draft and next years, determine which player is most likely to become a franchise QB, and then plan accordingly. If Sanchez is that guy, they need to get him and move Campbell this year. If not, they can give Campbell another chance and then draft one of the QBs next year. Either way, stability starts with a franchise QB.

I disagree with this entirely. Next years QB class by all measures should be as good or far better than this years. And I still maintain it's easier to bring a qb in to an established system, than to have a qb change in mid stream. With that said, this year you HAVE to stand pat at this point.
Let's say we draft Sanchez this year, so we have Colt and Sanchez both as backups, no proven depth(that Leftwich or Collins could provide) AND only 3 scenarios could happen going forward:

1)JZ and JC work great together we extend Campbell and now have 2 unproven qbs around for a while.

2) JZ and JC FAIL miserably, and both are axed, so now you again have 2 unproven qbs, brought in by someone other than the new HC, whoever it is.

3) The team goes middle of the road, somehow good enough to give Zorn one more shot, not good enough to keep Campbell. In which case, JZ would have Colt who had 2 years on the bench and could get a QB of Sanchez's talent in next years draft at a mid level pick (which is where we would be in this scenario.) and we would not have missed a chance to upgrade either our OT/LB in a draft class that should give us a chance to get one or the other at #13.

Your point about Spurrier/Matthews IS Spurious, because no one would suggest that either of those people had a chance in he** of becoming something in the league.

Stability comes from having a good head coach who is given time to get his system right and then bringing in the Franchise QB once the other elements are in place, not putting a QB out there and let the system stabilize around him. Is there even an example of what you are suggesting (i plead ignorance), which if I understand it, is that a Franchise QB provides stability even if Head coaches are changed. The coach has to be there first and then he brings in qb, not the other way around.